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Is there any circumstances that strike points would be split beside striking at the same time?

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you have a world champ and all the ntch and grnt listed and you do not know the answer to your ?

YES THERE IS

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Yeah and none of those dogs got those titles by me knowing the rules.

One example please?

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No way to.

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I think anytime handlers agree that its the fairest thing to do they can be split.
An example would be crowning the top of a hill and all dogs come within hearing at the same time. Splitting the points makes more sense than a shouting match to get em on the card.

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It actually happened to me. We called strike at the exact same time and the judge said he was splitting it.

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I was on a nite hunt 3 yrs ago.
We just cut dogs loose across a field.
Guide/judge had permission,but the nosey neighbor{that didn't own the property}drove down to see what was going on.Judge/guide walked back to road to let him know he had permission.All dogs struck in,when they got in the woods,no judge.So when he came back we just agreed to split strike.

Only thing I didn't like was my dog split treed 30 ft away,and they out voted me to split tree points too....lol

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you line the dogs up to turn them lose they all open before you turn them you believe that there is a track there the judge says if they leave here on a track all strick will be split.

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mr felderman sounds like you got some coon dogs that win there self not ones the handler wins for the dog by tweeking the rules . that is great hope your hounds continue to win.

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and before anybody takes it the wrong way my comment to mr felderman has nothing to do with split strike points just only that sounds like his hounds do it right by there self. no temptation to cheat or twist the rules when you have a true blue get it done right coon hound.

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What about this situation. 3 Dog cast, 1 dog is barking on the leash and the other 2 dogs are just pulling but have not barked. Cut loose and they all open in seconds. 2 members say split strike the judge says no because not all dogs were barking on the leash. What do you do?

Split or is the judge correct? I don't know

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Originally posted by T Felderman
What about this situation. 3 Dog cast, 1 dog is barking on the leash and the other 2 dogs are just pulling but have not barked. Cut loose and they all open in seconds. 2 members say split strike the judge says no because not all dogs were barking on the leash. What do you do?

Split or is the judge correct? I don't know

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Originally posted by T Felderman
What about this situation. 3 Dog cast, 1 dog is barking on the leash and the other 2 dogs are just pulling but have not barked. Cut loose and they all open in seconds. 2 members say split strike the judge says no because not all dogs were barking on the leash. ( What do you do? )

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I say do not strike YOUR dogs till the minute is up.

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If all dogs are barking when lined up getting ready to cast, you then split the strike point 3 ways. If only two dogs are barking, you split strike points two ways, if only one dog is barking nobody is going to agree to split so you will be forced to call your dog in the order in which they open.

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If more than one dog is barking on the lead strap, the judge should ask if handlers of those dogs would like to split the strike points. The handlers all have the minute grace period so it would be their choose whether to strike or not strike. The handlers that choose to split would be on the card with the appropriate split strike points and the rest would have the normal minute rule and next available positions as called.

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Some other times to split strike would be.......

-Turning loose on a hot coon seen crossing the road.
(To be fair, I would split strike points)
-Dogs deep and out of hearing, drive closer by vehicle.
(If dogs opening when arrive, all dogs opening will have strike points split.)

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Originally posted by T Felderman
Yeah and none of those dogs got those titles by me knowing the rules.

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Some other times to split strike would be.......

-Turning loose on a hot coon seen crossing the road.
(To be fair, I would split strike points)
-Dogs deep and out of hearing, drive closer by vehicle.
(If dogs opening when arrive, all dogs opening will have strike points split.)

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Originally posted by PineHill Kennel
if the dogs are out of hearing and deep wouldnt everyone call time out ?????

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If mines to far to hear. Im not agreeing to split nothing. More than likely when we get in hearing. They will be treed also. So we'd have to split that to. Best thing to do is walk. He who has better ears. Gets better points. Plus if all you split strike just to all dogs barking at turn loose. You must be splitting an awful lot of points nowdays with all these souped up deluxe first strike dogs.

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Originally posted by rweller
As long as they were all barking when you turned loose, split the strike. Doesn't matter what they were doing on the leash.
Sounds like the judge was out voted anyway. SPLIT.

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once dogs our off leash you can't decide to split strike. if all dogs our opening on the lead you need to ask the judge to split the strike right then. not after you cut the dogs.

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Didn't know you could drive to dogs on a cast anytime unless time out was called ????? Are did something change that I'm unaware of ???? Common sense rule good sportsman rule should be applied during these situations !!!

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[QUOTE]Originally posted by roy mac
once dogs our off leash you can't decide to split strike. if all dogs our opening on the lead you need to ask the judge to split the strike right then. not after you cut the dogs. [/QUOTE

I believe anytime it cant be determined which dog opened and was struck or got treed and was called first the points may be split.

If they have to be on the leash why does the scorecard show the split breakdown for tree points?

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Originally posted by T Felderman
Yeah and none of those dogs got those titles by me knowing the rules.

One example please?

Thanks

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