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TreenDeets
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Coyotes running dog off the tree

Have you ever witnessed it? I heard of it but tonight i saw it. My young dog treed and i had heard coyotes yippin but didnt think anything of it. I was walkin to the tree without my light through an open field i got within 150 yards and he quit treeing. Then i heard the awfulest fight goin on and here they came out in the field. I turned on my light and saw 2 yotes chasing my pup. I hollered and they high tailed it. I couldnt believe it

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gwhunter
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Coyotes ran dog off tree.

The same thing happened to me year before last, only there were 5 or 6 of them couldn't get a good count they were running all over. They actually did it twice because my old dog went back to the tree after I started shooting up in the air. I was a long way off and was trying to get across a muddy plowed field. I was probably 200 yds away when I picked up their eyes with my light. I feel like if I had been another ten minutes away they would probably have killed her. They are really bad around here. I think all of us hunters should make it our goal to start hunting these pests to drop the population down.

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The reason

you just happen to be hunting near the coyote den,they were protecting their pups
now that you know of that then you can stay away from it and you wont have a problem until you run in to another den

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my opinion

I don't believe it has anything to do with a den. i havee seen it three times and have heard of more from other ppl all times of the year and the one time with me it was a single male in summer when ii didn't have a gun. Coyote ran a 7yr old male back to me and stayed within 50yds of us all the way to the truck. It had me more than a little shook up lo.l. coyotes have killed a lot of hounds around here

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Bob Boyd
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Coyotes

That has happened to my buddies and I several times down here in North Texas too. You don't have to be around a coyote den for them to head toward your dogs. They travel a lot of miles in a days time.

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Darren Hollis
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Seen them do it a couple different times. They messed with the wrong one a few years ago. I had a BIG blue male that they tried to run off a tree. I heard the fight break out and when I got to the tree where all the fight was taking place ole BLUE has the throat hold on the coyote. Killed him stone cold dead!! Every hair on my neck was standing up for sure.

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Many reasons

if its not a den, remember they are a canine , They protect their territory ,this is fact,not a opinion,
sounds like you could use your dogs for decoy coyote dogs and have a lot of fun

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Re: Many reasons

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if its not a den, remember they are a canine , They protect their territory ,this is fact,not a opinion,
sounds like you could use your dogs for decoy coyote dogs and have a lot of fun




I agree with you!
Seems I have been run out of there Dens a couple times. 1 time it was about this time of the yr when they had there babies, and got run plum out by a female and the second time there were Dens in the ground where I had went back the next day, just to see. Thats when I had my Garmin. They were Coyote dens, I know alot about them just because my Dad and Grandfather ran them SOB's for about 25 yrs. The first time I went, had jumped a coyote with about 8 hounds, 2 of them being kill dogs and they put on a show, all day and all night. And if you got an abundance of them they will pack up and will kill anything they can get there mangie a$ses a hold of.

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Happend to my Rock dog, now when hes treed if he hears a coyote its over and he high tails it to find me.

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Btw when yotes ran him off they was trying to get him to run after one and they were others a 100 yards away waiting! They are smart!

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LED BLINKING LIGHT

I run LED flashing lights on all my dogs Garmin collars.Never had Coyote problem.Hear them bark and carry on,but not real close.Maybe 200-300 yards.
Local hog farmer put a few airport runway flashing lights around the outside of his fence.Said it cut his piglet lose way down to Coyote{s}.They associate lights with humans and stay away.

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Pat shafer
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I had that happen to me with my young walker. when he tree hey would come into it so I started running him with a light on his collar and that help a lot. when he tree when he was younger he had a mouth hat sounded like a coyote. I could go all night not seeing them or hearing them but when he tree the would come on a run to the tree. I know a guy that this had happen to and never been the same.

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TreenDeets
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Thats one of my best spots to go. Im not letting those nasty thing push me out. Im gona clip in there with a call in kill a couple

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My Father was a fur buyer and I remember the stories from back when the state paid a bounty on a set of fox ears, $5, an this was real money then,, You can bet if those old boys heard hunters talking about where a fox den was there would not be a set of ears left in that den after the next day, the state paid the same $5 for every pair of ear,, they did not care how large the ears were,,, After a couple of years with the bounty,, was 20 years before we had fox again,, I'm sure you wont be paid $5 for the ears,, but if you really did not want the yotes,, is your choice,

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Coyotes

Their fur has a good price in the winter as long as they aren't rubbed. I carry a 9 mm with me all the time. I have a con concealed carry I figure me and the game warden will have to talk sometime but till then I still carry it. Better than having my dog killed.

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Storm99

I only know this because I spent 25 years studying these canines,trapped many,as well as raise decoy dogs for government programs,it takes a smart hound to come back,decoy dogs are worth a lot .

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ROOFMAN
You and I have prolly had the same experiences.
Not knockin your knowledge though.

They are DENS you are right! The people that dont know nothin about them should pick up a book in there nearest Library unless you have had these experiences with yotes, most of them yes will try to get the hound to run them they are called "Barkers" thats what I call em. If you got one that will run trash, they will run a Barker, unless you have an absolute stay put treedog, and if anything comes to the tree and he's holdin his ground till you get there. But most yotes around hear, are Pu$$y's! JMO!

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I've had several run ins between coyotes and dogs but nothing serious. Howver, there is one experience that stands out.

I cut an old dog and a pup to the North, into the wind, along a creek. I'd heard some dogs barking about 300 yards to the Southeast but there was a couple houses there so I didn't think much of it.

I stood quietly with my light off for a few minutes, facing north. Dogs were covering some ground and I was keeping very quiet so I could hear.

I heard something behind me and turned around and flipped my light on. There was a coyote, CLOSE. Then I saw another one, and another. In all, there were 4 coyotes, that I saw before they scattered. I stepped off how close the closest one was, and it was about 50 feet. I realized then that's what those house dogs were barking at.

I also thought it was interesting they were downwind of me. They had to know a person was there.

I got home and told my wife about it and she asked if I was scared. I hadn't really thought about it until then and realized I probably should have been scared.

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Well about the scared part, i realized shortly after they turned and ran that my heart was racing, i was more scared i wasnt gona bring the dog home after i heard that fight . Ive heard many hound on coon fights and knew this was different. And after i had the young dog on the lead i just realized that he had just smoked a coon in there and slam dunked it the right way, and those mangy things messed it up. Then i was pi$$ed. I just hope it doesnt affect my dog.

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I guess I'll tell my yote story.

I was hunting a nice 15 month old Plott female for a friend of mine several years ago in southern Illinois. I was waiting for another friend to come go hunting and he was running late as normal so I decided to cut her by herself in this little patch of woods. The woods weren't big or deep (maybe 15 yards) and they opened up into a field. This was the spring of the year and it was still bean stubble.

Well, Sadie struck and was working a track north and went right out of the woods into the field. I wasn't worried though, about 250 yards across the field there was a bigger patch of woods. It was pretty common to tree back there and I had permission so no biggie.

She's grubbing this track through the field about half way between the two woods when she shuts up. I mean stone cold silent. That wasn't like her at all. She had a pretty good nose and generally once she started it she was gonna put a tree on the end. I stood there dumbfounded and here she came and stood beside me. I just thought it was strange and grabbed her collar and tried to cut her on the south side of the road. She wouldn't have any of it. She was a hard hunting dog even by herself so I knew something was off. We'd hunted many nights just me and her.

I turn around and about 25 foot off the front of truck (parked alongside the road) was 6 or 7 coyotes. They hadn't barked or said a word, just chased her out. I leashed Sadie pretty dang quick and hollered and clapped my hands. The yotes took off but they got just inside the little patch of timber and were watching me while I loaded her and got in the truck. I could scan my light on the north side of road and I could see their eyes reflecting light. I'd lie if I said I wasn't pretty dang nervous about the whole ordeal.

I went about 2 miles down the road and my buddy finally made it and we made 2 or 3 drops that night. Sadie never acted like anything happened and hunted just like she always did. I kept an eye peeled though because of how those yotes snuck up on us. I know she didn't slip up on some den or something. She was in the middle of a big, flat, bean stubble field!

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ive only had it happen a couple times, and it was always this time of year and because of a pr with pups/about to have pups....and a den too close to where the dogs treed.

the last time it was Ferrari's dolly pup (shes an old dog now if she is even still alive) and andy rowes little ruby 2 gyp........it didn't go well for the yotes as one died at the tree they came in on and I found the dogs 2+ miles away with the other one bayed in a dozer pile the next afternoon...it died of lead poisoning

I heard them "catch" several times before they got out of hearing and I went back to the truck for the tracker........but they could never keep that one pinned down for long lol (both hounds were pups at the time, one of them only like 8 or 9 months old the other just over a yr)......neither ever messed with one again as far as I know and I don't think they would have then if it hadn't been a blindside at the tree.

I also knew of a plott from years and years ago who could run them down, catch them, and kill them on a regular basis :/ on his own....I don't ever remember him getting ate up either for some weird reason

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