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rance56
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how would something like this compare to coonhunting lights

just wondering how bright this might be compared to the lights out there in the coonhunting world. is 300 lumens a lot?

http://www.rei.com/product/869077/fenix-hp25-headlamp

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There are some bright coonhunting lights
Fot around $200 you can get a nice light
I bought a byou and it bright
My friend bought xl convertiable it bright
I think he payed $200 but my oppion
300 lumeins is not bright
1000 lumins is bight but you have to look
At the distance it will shine the byou is rate
At around 60000 lux
The byou is a nice light and only 14Oz.
Hope this helps

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There are two types of lenses, lenses can either have a narrow focused beam of light which is referred to as throw, or you can have what is called more of a flood type lenses which lights up a large area around you but doesn't shine far and is unfocused. Most typical cheap head lamps that you buy at the local sporting goods have what ya call a flood lenses which throw a wide light for walking. Generally you don't have to spend a lot of money to find a light that works for walking through the woods,however to find a light weight light that can throw a focused beam 50 ft up in the air will require a little bit more of a financial investment.

I use a head lamp similar to that one, but have to carry a tactical flashlight for spotting the trees. What I spent on the two combined I could have bought a nice coon hunting light. That being said my coon hunting light is currently being sent back for repairs and I'm back to using the Princeton Apex head lamp, and carrying my tactical flashlight.

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I work with lights everyday. What you want in a light is a high lux reading with a good ambient light. I'll try to explain what I mean.

The Lux value is what we would refer to as brightness. You can get a hi lux value out of a very small lumen rating. The problem is all of the light will have to be concentrated into the beam and you have no light left to walk by. 300 lumen will not be much. Some of the brighter lights on the market right now have a little over a 1000 lumen and 50,000 lux. That is a more usable light than one that is 50k lux and 300 lumen. Make sense?

I might make a few light dealers upset with me but lately there has been a lot of flat out lying going on. I have tested lights that were supposed to be 55, 60 and a few that even called them self's 80,000 lux. The biggest majority of them are not even 30,000 and many of them are less than that.

I have tested almost all of them and I have seen 3 that will do 50k or little better and a couple that will do 40k lux and that's it.

I'll get off my soap box now but to answer your question that light would require you to get a spot light if you are serious about being able to find a coon.

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Rance hope things are good with you and glad to hear your thinking about following a dog through the woods again.

I think Joey was spot on when he said if you were going to use that light you would also need to carry a Spotlight.

If I may add a few things. I think there is more to consider than Lumens and LUX. I have coonhunted for 45 years and I will never understand why people want these lights brighter and brighter. Probably two years ago they were bright enough for me. With that said if the customers want them brighter and brighter then we can give it to them.
Also when someone brings this post back up 3 years from know most things said here due to Technology changes will be outdated.

The main things in my opinion to consider once your comfortable with the brightness are the following.
1. Burn Time
2. The size of the beam or main light concentration.
3. The HALO and this is important to me because it keeps me from tripping over things down by me feet.

Rance if you have some spare time I am just a short ways down I-95 from you. Stop by the store. I have some examples of lights and the light beams they give off.

Click on the LINK below, it is interesting.
http://www.flashlightreviews.com/features/lux.htm

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The main things in my opinion to consider once your comfortable with the brightness are the following.
1. Burn Time
2. The size of the beam or main light concentration.
3. The HALO and this is important to me because it keeps me from tripping over things down by me feet.



Bruce a balance between the lumen and LUX rating are what gives you the size of the beam and the halo ( ambient ) light you are referring to.

There has to be a balance between the two. Like I said you can get a very high lux rating out of a low lumen output but all of your light will be concentrated into the beam leaving you nothing left to walk with. The more lumen you have the more light you have that can be concentrated with light left over to be able to walk with.

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One of the very best coon finders I have hunted with uses a cheap AA headband like the one shown here and a cordless spotlight. He finds more coons faster than anyone I know and seldom pulls out the spot. Usually, when he does pull out the spot, his dog is getting a serious correction.

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One of the very best coon finders I have hunted with uses a cheap AA headband like the one shown here and a cordless spotlight. He finds more coons faster than anyone I know and seldom pulls out the spot. Usually, when he does pull out the spot, his dog is getting a serious correction.




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http://www.ebay.com/itm/Bright-2000...=item33852bdf21

You can buy these all day on ebay for less than $20. I take them, mount them on a bump cap, and that is all that I use. They are plenty bright, and they shine more than far enough. They come with a smart charger, and the batteries will last all night. After I am done with them I have maybe $35-$40 in them

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http://www.coastportland.com/led-headlamps/


I've been using these coast lights for a few years ... the beam and light adjust .... and they are plenty bright for coonhunting ... maybe not for spotlighting , but us houndsmen aint supposed to be doing that anyway.

Once you use a lightweight lamp with a comfortable strap that is easy to carry around and cheap to replace you will be spoiled ... they have some much higher end lights like these too if you want to get space age .

The only drawback is that no matter what battery option you pick ... you will have to recharge between every hunt .

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http://www.coastportland.com/led-headlamps/


I've been using these coast lights for a few years ... the beam and light adjust .... and they are plenty bright for coonhunting ... maybe not for spotlighting , but us houndsmen aint supposed to be doing that anyway.

Once you use a lightweight lamp with a comfortable strap that is easy to carry around and cheap to replace you will be spoiled ... they have some much higher end lights like these too if you want to get space age .

The only drawback is that no matter what battery option you pick ... you will have to recharge between every hunt .



They are not bad lights, I have one that I gig frogs with. but the Crees are 1/3 the price, and 6 times brighter.

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thanks everyone, bruce ill get up with you soon. thanks rance

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I still think the best light to walk by is a carbide one. I remember when I was a kid my dad carried one et a 7 D cell spotlight. Seems like the coons wld look at that carbide light more than anything else. He used the spotlight to see to shoot. The problem is I haven't found any carbide in years.

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pretty good light we use them in wildland firefighting! but as! far as today's coonhunting lights 80% of all them are made up of the same parts ordered from the same place!! same as our dog feeds it all about money!! two or three different name brand feeds made at the same plant! they call it cutting costs!!

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Re: lights

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I still think the best light to walk by is a carbide one. I remember when I was a kid my dad carried one et a 7 D cell spotlight. Seems like the coons wld look at that carbide light more than anything else. He used the spotlight to see to shoot. The problem is I haven't found any carbide in years.


You can still buy it, you just have to know where to look!

https://www.lehmans.com/p-2220-five...um-carbide.aspx

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Listen to Bruce and Joey these guys know what they are talking about. They both make Outstanding Lights and you would be happy with either one they make. Best way to find a light is to do exactly what Bruce said. Go and compare them side by side and see what they are all about....That's what I did and I am very pleased with my choice and it has never left me in the dark..... But for the 200 bucks I would make another choice in a hunting light. I have seen a bunch like that and they leave ALOT to be desired in a hunting light. If your looking for something cheap. Do what I did go to a big box store and buy a led mag light and a rechargeable spot light. I used these to items for well over a year and found a many of coon with them. I think I was out right around 100 buck for both..... But in the end I bought a Great coon hunting light.

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Re: lights

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I still think the best light to walk by is a carbide one. I remember when I was a kid my dad carried one et a 7 D cell spotlight. Seems like the coons wld look at that carbide light more than anything else. He used the spotlight to see to shoot. The problem is I haven't found any carbide in years.


I hunted a couple nights last year with a carbide lamp. It was early kill season with the leaves still on. Me and my buddy Adrian Martin and Irvin Weaver were shining a big oak and my carbide found that coon after the other two couldn't find it at all. But I'll tell yah this, two nights with a carbide is all the carbide I will need in this lifetime.

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When I was a kid that's about all there was to chose from. Once in a while someone wld have a wheat light. They are a pain in the wind even with the wind tube.

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