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I got a 14 month old walker pup out of medleys hard wood lock box. I really like this pup. He will run and tree his own. But if u dont catch him off the tree u wont. He also loves to bump a white tail but ends every track with a coon. I dont have a shock collor so thats not a option. How do i put a handle on him with out a shock collor? And how do i get him to stay focused on the coon? And leavs the deer alone?

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bump a deer and fall off on a coon. I had a dog consistanly winning cast doing this. Broke him off deer and ruined him.lol Strike'm for a 100 on a deer fall off on that coon for 125. Thats a winner.

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The deer isnt the big problem. Its the not being able to catch him unless hes treed. Ive even had to get my 6 month old treeing on a dead coon just to get him to come in. Thats another bad habit cuz i dont want him backing a dog either.

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id just get another dog or shoot him

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you gonna shoot a dog for wanting to hunt?

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I really think you are just going to have to use a shock collar. Take him to a football statium or a big fenced in yard. If you have more sense than him you can teach him. Use the toner button and when you are hunting all you will have to do is tone him to come to you.

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you gonna shoot a dog for wanting to hunt?

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Yeah i need a shock collor. Just thought that their might be a differnt way i didnt know about. Ive trained a few with the shock collor before. So i know how to do that.

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Dont shoot him.

Sell your gun and buy a shock system. There are some good used ones at some of the hound suppy stores. Maybe someone on here could hunt with you that has one and help you.

You can also TEACH him to come to you with a long rope and some cut up hot dogs.

Good luck to you. I hope you get him clickin really fast.

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how much you take for him

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I tried the rope and treats. Worked well during the day light but soon as it gets dark and that leash snaps he dont know nothing but hunt. I have to get a shock collor. Im gonna borrow one from a friend. Thanks for all the advice except the guy that told me to shoot my dog. Guess everybody dont have hounds that love to hunt..

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Thanks jim but he aint for sale he was a gift from my dad. And i couldnt do that.

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Just get a shocker and tone brake him....it's easy to do!!!!!

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Yeah i need a shock collar. Just thought that their might be a differnt way i didnt know about. Ive trained a few with the shock collor before. So i know how to do that.

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I'm sure there is, you can't tell me nobodies dog came when called before TriTronics. I guess I just don't remember how. My hunting partner uses a tractor that you have to crank to start. I chit you not, you gotta stick a crank handle in the front a give it a spin to start that thing. He prolly remembers how to train one without a shock collar.

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How do you tone break them. I always put them on a long rope and hollored dead, then bumped them. Thats how dad taught me but bless his heart thats why we dont own a shock collor cuz he ruined numerous dogs trien to make a dog. So im a lil lury of a shock collor.

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How do you tone break them. I always put them on a long rope and hollored dead, then bumped them. Thats how dad taught me but bless his heart thats why we dont own a shock collor cuz he ruined numerous dogs trien to make a dog. So im a lil lury of a shock collor.

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They are a great tool, trained many hounds with them. I have trained them all in hunting situations, 3 things happen.....they run and hide til you catch them, lay down til you go get them or they come to you. I have had most do the latter. All you gotta do is yell for them, tone, yell, tone, do this a few times then shock them on the lowest setting. Give them time to settle and do it over. Normally you can get them to come in, increase the shocker power until you get a response. Even if they start coming to you keep toming and yelling even if you know they are coming in and you can see them. Pet them up once they come to you, praze them! Normally 4 to 6 times of this and they are 90% broke. The other 10% is calling them off a track or tree. I usually don't do this until they get the other down pat and have treed several coon solo. I'd be surprised at how smart a dog is and how well you can make the biggest hunters and coon treeer's to handle! A dog loves to have a master this will not hinder the most powerful of coon dogs!

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Thanks for that knowledge im gonna try that. Hopefully ill get a handle on this dog cuz ive had to do some crazy things to catch him. If he wasnt a gift from my dad id gotten rid of him long ago.

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Please try to refrain from all the other dumb stuff, that's stupid and will do nothing but confuse your hound!!!

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Yeah i know. Hopefully ill have a shocker when this wether breaks. We got ice right now and expecting more tonight. So dont know when we can get back at it.

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I'm sure there is, you can't tell me nobodies dog came when called before TriTronics. I guess I just don't remember how. My hunting partner uses a tractor that you have to crank to start. I chit you not, you gotta stick a crank handle in the front a give it a spin to start that thing. He prolly remembers how to train one without a shock collar.

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Ive had to do it all to catch this dog. Ran him down and then he got to the point if he wasnt treed and seen a light he would run off. I sit in the dark one night for a hour and seen the red light blinking on his collor as he was comeing through the woods. I let him get about 30 yards from me and the chase was on ran through a old barb wire fence and needless to say but it was 730 am before i caught him that time.

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Ive had to do it all to catch this dog. Ran him down and then he got to the point if he wasnt treed and seen a light he would run off. I sit in the dark one night for a hour and seen the red light blinking on his collor as he was comeing through the woods. I let him get about 30 yards from me and the chase was on ran through a old barb wire fence and needless to say but it was 730 am before i caught him that time.

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Yep hard headed walker. Im getting to old to chase one my self. But i refuse to leave one out so i gotta do what i have to do to catch him.

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