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Climb or Die
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a tree alot of dogs tree on but its always slick?

ok I had my pup work a track last night and come up treed slick. now the funny thing is I comp hunt this woods quite often and I have had 5-6 dogs tree on this tree and it is always slick. its not a very big tree that leans out of the edge of a field. anyone else have a tree like this I mean the way they work the track and slam treed you would think that they had a coon for sure. also I have tried to send dogs on from here and they can never pick up the track and take it out of there. I've had some real nice big winners do the dame thing on this tree just wondering if any of you guys have experienced something like this. it reminds me of the ghost coon from where the red fern grows

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yep ghost coon

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Larry Atherton
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If you remember right, the dogs weren't wrong with the ghost coon.

A buddy has a tree like that near his house. It is a den tree. You just can't see the hole from below. It is in a crotch.

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We had a coon we would tree about every time we hunt this one spot. The tree wasn't real big but it was in a hedge row so we just thought the coon went up and walked right on down that hedge row. Well one night my buddy decided to climb that tree. Up about 8 foot there was a fork, right in the middle of that fork the tree was split and went down just far enough for the coon to hide. We finally got him that night.

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well it looks as though i'm going to have to get my climbing boots on

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We have a couple like this on our place. I am thinking about breaking out the chainsaw.

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It's not a persimmon tree is it?

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Never had a tree like that but had a track saw lots of dogs run it always struck in same place always went same way. This went on for a little over six years usually ended with no tree or in a hole...always wondered what it was since some of the best dogs around continued to run it, finally one night it was treed and saw big male coon. Track originated in graveyard lol always figured that had something to do with it.

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It's not a persimmon tree is it?


Had several different dogs tree on the same persimmon a bunch one fall and never saw a coon. It was on the edge of a lake and we figured the coon was either swimming the lake or swimming out in the lake and coming back to shore down the bank. Never treed on that tree any since or before, must have treed on it 7 to 10 times in about a 6 week period from October into November.

Another year we treed about 4 times in the same pine tree but it was huge and would have been very hard to find a coon in. Dogs would strike beside the same big hole of water in the creek and run a red hot short track about 75 yards around the hill to it. Never treed on that tree any other time than that summer.

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perhaps a persimmon tree

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not a permission

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My old dog treed one night on a soft maple that wasn't big enough too be a den on the river,the tree was next to a bridge,after doin' this a few times I thought she had went junk on me till one night I seen eyes at the top of the bridge,dang coon would go up the tree & get on the bridge & climb to the top,treed that coon every time I'd hunt there till somebody shot it,sure do miss that ole coon,always got a good race out of that one.

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Several years ago I was hunting a dog that in the Iowa State $KC hunt. Drew out and went to the first drop. I had first and first on the fence row going to the woods.

The guide chuckled and told me that the tree would be slick. I told him that she was good about having a coon and wasnt the type to just tree. Sure enough, we got there and she is by herself on the fence row, treed on a relatively small tree that actually had the fence grown INTO the tree.

No leaves on the tree and it was obvious that no coon was on the outside. I made a trip around the tree, crossing the fence twice to look carefully at the tree, and saw a fork that the bark was brown and not grey. I told the judge that I thought it was a den tree, and showed them why. A discussion ensued (not an argument) where the judge asked the other participants if they were okay with him standing on the fence and looking in the fork of the tree. It required some climbing, but he would not be climbing the tree...but instead would be climbing the fence. Everyone agreed that would be fine, and I agreed that if there was not a hole, with a coon in it...I was about to eat minus points.

Sure enough, the judge climbed the fence, looked into a hole and announced that there was not one coon in the hole, there were four coon curled up in that little tree.

The guide went ballistic....he had whipped his dog off that tree a dozen times and had not noticed the hole.....

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The nose knows,that would be the pits.

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Jay you'll have to take me to run this mystery coon some night. Maybe my black dogs can figure it out for ya. Lol. Call me this weekend we need to cut loose somewhere.

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Strike in the same place

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Never had a tree like that but had a track saw lots of dogs run it always struck in same place always went same way. This went on for a little over six years usually ended with no tree or in a hole...always wondered what it was since some of the best dogs around continued to run it, finally one night it was treed and saw big male coon. Track originated in graveyard lol always figured that had something to do with it.



I got a place in proctor that the dogs strike in the same place every time & seem to lose the track in the same place every time, made a vow we will get it sooner or later. Even thought about putting a couple trail cams up where we seem to lose it just to try & see it lol

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Some coon have a favorite tree they lay up in. As soon as they hear dogs they come down and make a run for a den . MANY dogs will tree on the tree the coon had just came out of because its so hot of a track.. Just walk the dog off the tree and recast them. Most of the time they will tree the coon...In kill season you would be surprised how many coon you can find with a gun scope you cant see...LOL

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Most of these trees are lay up trees or possibly some sort of feed trees.When Darlin was a a young pup one night I saw a coon in a persimmon bush right beside the highway.I continued down the road for several miles and cut her and Smoke and she treed a bush in less than 50 yards from the truck and Ole Smoke took a hot track 800 yards to the swamp and treed a hollow. She had a kitten coon and he had a big coon .All this took about and hour and a half.I traveled back the same way I had come and I noticed the coon I had seen earlier in the persimmon tree by the highway was gone.I cut Darlin around that field and she treed the same tree in less than 10 seconds.Had I not already seen this tree had a coon in it earlier I would have gotten on her.I recut her and she trailed a track for about 300 yards and treed a huge oak and in the fork laid a coon asleep,Most likely the same coon I had saw as I past by earlier that night....I have noticed too ,If baiting an area regular you will have coons laying up in the same trees close to the feed source ...sometimes they will be seen and sometimes you will think your dog is lying and actually a TREE DOG..will tree these regularly climbed ,stinky trees more so than a dog that stays on the ground...jmo

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I found out last weekend in Monroe Nc that dogs will tree on a persimmon tree. My dog is pretty good about having it and knows better than to tree on a little bush but he located and treed like normal.

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Hunted a lot in proctor area also blues lol may have chased your ghost track also ....been out of hunting though since 98 so probably not, just bought a blue english pup so probably be back at it soon....

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Halloween gettin to everyone?????? Ghost coon???? No persimmon trees in the area you hunt/live I know. Pin oak or cherry tree?

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no its just some little tree I don't even recognize what type it is. it does touch a couple of bigger trees but i'm not one to believe that coon can climb out like squirrels like some tend to believe when their dog is on one of these trees the thing is I have tried to send dogs on from this tree and they never pick a track back up. i'm going to climb the thing the next time just to ease my mind.

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I think this is one of those trees that the coon lay out in but the thing that gets me is the dogs can never pick a track up going away from it and the track they run to the tree is hot.

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I may have an option for what the reasoning is. If you want you can call me. I dont know everything by any means but have encountered a problem or two like this in that area of the country. Also I have hunted since 3 years old and never would have believed the crossing out theory until I saw it myself at 15 or 16 while shining a tree out pleasure hunting. From a big tree to small and back to the bigger one. Not "squirrel like" (jumping) but trees touching.

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