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I have been hunting two young male dogs and so far this is what I have done with them alone. Just trying figure what deal is with them

Male 1

1st tree Slick
2nd tree den
3rd tree. Leaves (slick)
4th tree. Den
5th tree Den
6th tree. Den
7th tree. Coon
8th tree. Coon
9th tree. Coon



Male 2

1st tree leaves (slick)
2nd tree den
3rd tree. Den
4th tree. Den
5th tree. Slick
6th tree. Slick
7th tree. Den
8th tree coon
9th tree. Coon
10th tree slick

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#1 30%
#2 20%
R u administering any type of disciple? If u ain't u need too.

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Dog 1= 60%. Dog 2= 33%. Why would you count dens as slicks. They should be counted as circles. Doesnt help percentage but don't hurt it either.

Originally posted by Dogwhisper
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R u administering any type of disciple? If u ain't u need too. [/QUOTE]

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Backtracking and stinky dens!

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Originally posted by Dogwhisper
#1 30%
#2 20%
R u administering any type of disciple? If u ain't u need too.

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60% & 33% u r way to generous.
IMO the dogs r 30 & 20 % accurate, and yes I M critical.

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dog 1 might be starting to get his act together.ive had dogs that the harder you hunted them the more accurate they got,if you layed up a while they would miss.

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Just my opinion, but I've never considered most dens to be slick. Most of the dens I've climbed over the years or have been able to get a look into, seem to have coon in them. I guess I wouldn't count them for or against, if I ever really kept track on a dog. That's just me, though.

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Originally posted by Grant Noeske
Just my opinion, but I've never considered most dens to be slick. Most of the dens I've climbed over the years or have been able to get a look into, seem to have coon in them. I guess I wouldn't count them for or against, if I ever really kept track on a dog. That's just me, though.

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Originally posted by bluetikman
I have been hunting two young male dogs and so far this is what I have done with them alone. Just trying figure what deal is with them

Male 1

1st tree Slick
2nd tree den
3rd tree. Leaves (slick)
4th tree. Den
5th tree Den
6th tree. Den
7th tree. Coon
8th tree. Coon
9th tree. Coon



Male 2

1st tree leaves (slick)
2nd tree den
3rd tree. Den
4th tree. Den
5th tree. Slick
6th tree. Slick
7th tree. Den
8th tree coon
9th tree. Coon
10th tree slick

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I am critical as well. But if its a true den with a hole I don't see how you can say its probably a slick tree. You don't get minused at a hunt for a den bit you do for a slick so why would count a den as a slick? I personally would not hunt a young dog that started off slick treeing

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Originally posted by Dogwhisper
60% & 33% u r way to generous.
IMO the dogs r 30 & 20 % accurate, and yes I M critical.

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Originally posted by DylanHovey
Yep.

Most dens are slick(backtracks/squirrels).

I would not be afraid to discipline a dog on a den that wasn't a real good track.



I don't know about you... but I don't like walking to den trees.

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Im the same and don't hold a true den with a hole against my dogs. Any thoughts to his dogs getting in groups of cubs? They can mess up even a very good dog

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I am not near as critical as most folks. ur getting it done. there prob young. a bad break this time lucky next time. who knows? keep on keeping on. happy hunting!

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I believe "if taught" a young dog will learn the difference between ALL 3 TREES.
IMO A DEN IS AN XCUSE to tree. There's only 1 tree worth walking too, and most know what tree that is. U disect the last 30 min. of the WORLD HUNT
( PLAY BY PLAY) and u will understand what i mean.

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We'll in my opinion if a dog runs a track in there and gets treed and it's a den then my opinion it's in there, and like last night we treed 2 dens and one was on outside and other was in it, and they run both track in there. I have never had none of my dogs just set treed on a den, if they was doing that then that would get me worried but running tracks in there it's legit to me.

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I'm sure some dens have no coon and yes I very much want to see a coon. However if the dog runs the track right and trees where the coon went which happens to be a den how can you fault the dog. I understand we are coon hunters not den hunters but dens are part of the hunt no matter how you slice it. Whooping a dog for a legit den is the dumbest thing I have read on this board and theres a lot of dumb stuff on this board.

QUOTE]Originally posted by Dogwhisper
I believe "if taught" a young dog will learn the difference between ALL 3 TREES.
IMO A DEN IS AN XCUSE to tree. There's only 1 tree worth walking too, and most know what tree that is. U disect the last 30 min. of the WORLD HUNT
( PLAY BY PLAY) and u will understand what i mean. [/QUOTE]

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A dog better get me ALOT more coons on the outside before I believe has has them on the inside !

Not enough coons , and too many slicks.
Neither one of those dogs are going to convince me to give them ANY credit , not even a "maybe" , on those dens.

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If a dog makes more dens than open coon i agree there may be an issue , but to think that every den is a slick and every track to a den is a backtrack is just plain silly.

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Originally posted by Dogwhisper
I believe "if taught" a young dog will learn the difference between ALL 3 TREES.
IMO A DEN IS AN XCUSE to tree.

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Originally posted by DylanHovey
Yep.

Most dens are slick(backtracks/squirrels).

I would not be afraid to discipline a dog on a den that wasn't a real good track.



I don't know about you... but I don't like walking to den trees.

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If you know your dog its easy to tell when they back track most of the time if the back track then the track will fizzle out and they become more quite and then come treed the more mouth as the track continues it's usually getting hotter jmo

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I turn one loose and it barks but don't put a coon on the end for some god awful reason. That counts against em. Only thing that goes for em is a coon. I can see why we have so many so called 90 percenters now.

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It's funny how the big time winners, the great ones, make very few den trees and have coons looking down when you get there... And it's not because "they learned the difference between the 3"

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