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Ok a 3 dog cast all dogs are struck in, dog a is off to the left dog b is to the right and dog c is following dog b. Dog b is declared treed and dog c is also treeing but never declared treed. Tree is closed after the 5 and dog c is still not declared treed but when judge arrive dogs b and c are on tree and tree is a den, so dog b is circle points. How is dog c scored, is dog c minused?

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Dog C is circled.

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both strike and tree?

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Let me guess, dog C was yours and you got minused? This seems to be a common rule mistake. They read rule 4G and apply it to every situation where a dog is handled treeing but not declared treed. But in fact, 4g only applies when the tree is minused. It cannot be applied if the tree is circled or plussed.

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Originally posted by T-Monroe
both strike and tree?

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No I was the judge and did circle strike no tree points but the guy who owned dog A wanted him minused both ways and I said no it is circled. I just wanted to clarify that I had made the right call and from what you say, I was correct. Just for the record my dog was B...lol

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Yeah, I think Paul should do an Advisor column on 4g just because it is so misunderstood.

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Yes they should do a column and explain the difference when the tree is circled, plussed or minused. Would help with the confusion on rule 4G.

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Originally posted by JiM
Dog C is circled.

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