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when are you leash locked ?? if three dogs are handled and the fourth dog is treed b 4 the 3 are recast ??/ there is a time when you have the option to turn loose when dogs / dog is treed = i cant find it in the rule book == any help wud b appreciated== thanks

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Andy,. Handlers option to turn back loose after scoring tree only if dog or dogs are treed AND there is at least one dog Trailing. Running Track. So in case of 3 dogs handled , and one dog treed before the other 3 are recast. then them 3 should of not been turned back loose. should of been walked into the 4th dogs tree. If 2 are handled , one is treed, and one is trailing, then the 2 dogs handled have option to turn back loose. How I understand the Rule.

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THANKS KENNEY SO MY ?? WAS RIGHT I JUDGE THAT WAY

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Andy the only thing wrong about the way Kenny explained the rule is in order for the dogs on the lead to have the option 1 or more dogs simply have to be loose and not treed, they dont have to be struck in.
In your case you handled it right, they are leash locked .

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Kenny I think you are right on the money with this answer with one minor correction. Now I may be wrong about this, but here is my one critique.

It is my understanding that; if in a four dog cast, Lets say dogs A-B-C-D. Dogs A-B-& C are struck, dogs A&B are treed and scored. lets say coming off A&B's tree we find dog C is now declared treed and dog D has not yet opened. Handlers A&B have the option to either turn loose or hang on to their hounds even though, Dog D has not yet opened, thus not really (trailing). So using the term (trailing) indicates a dog must be opening before a handler can utilize this option, thus making that term a little misleading.

It is my understanding that dog D is only required to be competing for a strike and not actually trailing for a handler to utilize his option to turn back loose.

I understand this is only a minor adjustment to your statement but it could come into play with some of the tight mouth hounds of today.

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Kenny I think you are right on the money with this answer with one minor correction. Now I may be wrong about this, but here is my one critique.

It is my understanding that; if in a four dog cast, Lets say dogs A-B-C-D. Dogs A-B-& C are struck, dogs A&B are treed and scored. lets say coming off A&B's tree we find dog C is now declared treed and dog D has not yet opened. Handlers A&B have the option to either turn loose or hang on to their hounds even though, Dog D has not yet opened, thus not really (trailing). So using the term (trailing) indicates a dog must be opening before a handler can utilize this option, thus making that term a little misleading.

It is my understanding that dog D is only required to be competing for a strike and not actually trailing for a handler to utilize his option to turn back loose.

I understand this is only a minor adjustment to your statement but it could come into play with some of the tight mouth hounds of today.

Have a GREAT Day guys!!! Good Hunting to you all!

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Jim, thanks for clarifying, cause I was right on board with Kenney, thought at least one had to be struck in. The rule reads "trailing" so I took that to mean struck.

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Andy the only thing wrong about the way Kenny explained the rule is in order for the dogs on the lead to have the option 1 or more dogs simply have to be loose and not treed, they dont have to be struck in.
In your case you handled it right, they are leash locked .

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Rule 11. Says you have to turn to dogs opening on trail unless one is treed.

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Rule 11. Says you have to turn to dogs opening on trail unless one is treed.

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Originally posted by AndyMiller
where in th rule book is it under what i cant find it thanks guys

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Originally posted by john Duemmer
Andy it is under rule 11 but it is not stated clearly, it says as long as a dog is "trailing" UKC. has said this simply means the dog is atlarge.
By the way your old chopper dog is now a GRNTch HTX2. and has some money won in PKC. Thinking of breeding him to my Bone female in the spring.

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This is a good example of quoting PART of a Rule. Rule 11 does say that but the rest of the rule continues with "However, if................." Read the whole rule.

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Yes Jim, I was slightly off. Yes if one is at large, Handler can either turn loose, or walk there dog into the tree. but some think only if a dog is trailing.

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