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I know that we aren't the only area of the country that people are putting this golden fly bait out to kill "coons".... I have seen no less then 25 coons so far this year dead with an empty pan of this stuff just steps away. One bunch was a whole litter, sow included.
Farmers mostly who are worried about loosing ten dollars on a square mile field are mixing golden fly bait and coke or juice and setting it out to kill anything that may take a drink. Walk a field after a combine has run through and see all the corn left on the ground and tell me that a handfull of coons are gonna make that much difference in their yields. ..
You will know if you have a person putting it out because the coons, opossoms, cats or whatever will not make it ten feet from the pan they die RIGHT NOW. You think a thirsty hound or a dumb pup would pass up a quick sweet drink you are wrong. If they get into it you can kiss em good bye, they will be dead before you can run them back to the truck.
Talk to your local land owners, at the very least have them warn you if and when they put it out, then you might let them know that it is illegal in 50 states to indiscriminately kill wildlife because of damage they "might" cause to their property.

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Not illegal we have a crop damage permit but I agree should let people no if your gonna put it out we farm but also coon hunt so it works out

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iIS ILLEAGAL...read the jar...it is NOT its intended use....it is a fly bait.

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I would like to read that law.... I know in Indiana its not.

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It kills me when all year there will be complaints of coons and then when kill season comes in no one wants to let you hunt lol.

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What really honks me off is that people think anything that sets foot, hoof or paw on their property without their approval is fair game.
We have a fella around here that is setting fly bait out all over his field and it shares 3 property lines with public hunting ground.

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It kills me when all year there will be complaints of coons and then when kill season comes in no one wants to let you hunt lol.

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I found this stuff a month ago along edge of cornfield and State Land.....a dead coon laying not 20 feet from the bowl of poison, it might be same place Jeff is talking about.........I haven't hunted that area since........Tim

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they are putting that stuff out here in ohio to. they should catch the people doing this and fine them heavy. if they kill my dog they are in for some bad luck. they put no hunting signs on every other tree and fence post then wonder why they have problems. ii will turn them in if i know who it is.

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I found this stuff a month ago along edge of cornfield and State Land.....a dead coon laying not 20 feet from the bowl of poison, it might be same place Jeff is talking about.........I haven't hunted that area since........Tim

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My family farms for a living-- coon do damage corn- ALOT. I would NEVER consider this practice-- It is unethical, inhumane and 100% indiscriminant. Quite possibly the most ignorant practice I've ever seen. I don't know what laws folks read and twist to convince themselves it is legal, but under no circumstance is it legal to put an open-air container of poison not being used for intended target and available to ALL passersby be they human or animal to consume. If a young kid got curious and stuck his hands in it- the crap absorbs through skin. We've been farming the same farms for generations, coon, deer etc aint broke us yet, and won't. Folks that put this stuff out are ignorant idiots.
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Very well said Dean.

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DNR has been called on all that I have found, we will see if anything is done about it.

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My family farms for a living-- coon do damage corn- ALOT. I would NEVER consider this practice-- It is unethical, inhumane and 100% indiscriminant. Quite possibly the most ignorant practice I've ever seen. I don't know what laws folks read and twist to convince themselves it is legal, but under no circumstance is it legal to put an open-air container of poison not being used for intended target and available to ALL passersby be they human or animal to consume. If a young kid got curious and stuck his hands in it- the crap absorbs through skin. We've been farming the same farms for generations, coon, deer etc aint broke us yet, and won't. Folks that put this stuff out are ignorant idiots.
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it was reported to dnr, havent heard any report since.

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Truth be known, Deer and Turkeys are probably doing far, far more damage to the crops than the coons.

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THERE WAS A GUY HERE IN OK. THAT PUT IT OUT BECAUSE THE COONS WHERE EATING HIS FEED IN HIS FEEDERS FOR HIS CALVES BUT QUESS WHAT HAPPENED HIS COWS GOT TO IT AND IT KILLED TWENTY FIVE HEAD OF REG. ANGUS SO IT WILL KILL EVEN LIVE STOCK

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IF IT IS FOUND ON YOUR LAND YOU SHOULD BE HELD RESPONCIBLE WETHER YOU PUT IT OUT OR NOT.

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wish they would quit selling the stuff it is dangerous. they could come up with something else to kill flys. it would take a sorry person to put that stuff out. i have 200+ acres i would never put that stuff out. i have more trouble with deer and crows than i do with coon. a lot of damage is blamed on coon when it is deer turkey squirrel or something else.

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Deer, turkey, and squirrels do not knock down the corn stalks. Coons knock down the stalks by climbing up them. Then sometimes they only eat one ear. The rest of the ears on that knocked down stalk will not be picked up by the combine. I have personally seen coon damage in 1 corn field exceed an acre on more than a few occasions.

Deer do most of their damage by eating the top of young corn plants.

The is no other small mammal that has more of an economic impact in both the positive and negative than the raccoon.

Raccoons eat all fruits, they get into maple syrup buckets, they get into barns and silos contaminating everything with their feces. Oh did I mention that coons nearly always carry round worms? That if eaten by a cow can cause the death of that cow. I have seen coons eat both wheat and soy beans, but they don't cause the same level of loss as they do with corn.

Fact of the matter is farmers and coon hunters should be working together.

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you must have a different breed of deer than we do, i have seen them eat at the ears of corn and knock the stocks down. then move on to another stock.

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I beleive Indiana does not allow for depradation permits on racoon, or at least they didn't use to. Deer yes, coon no.

So if you can't "hunt" them outside of season, damage or no damage, then you can't kill them. Otherwise they would release permits, or have the "nuisance" defnition like Michigan and Wisconsin.

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It is illegal and I lost a dog to it!!!!!! And if our game wardens in Ohio catch them using it they have to pay restitution for every estimated animal killed plus jail time

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