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Hoosier Man1
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what worse then?

Ya know what's worse then someone arguing with you that doesn't know the rules? Someone that thinks they know the rules and will argue with you.

I'll give you guys an example.

3 Dog cast. 1 Dog is treed and while were shinning the other 2 Come in. Judge says the strike is circled and I agreed.

He then goes on to say that so many guys mis-intrepret the rules in this case. Says a lot of guys would minus the strike when a coon is seen and that is not how its done unless they were in there treeing before the cast got in there. I just smiled and thought to myself I hope it doesn't come down to this situation between winning and losihg the cast for you

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Re: what worse then?

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Originally posted by Hoosier Man1
Ya know what's worse then someone arguing with you that doesn't know the rules? Someone that thinks they know the rules and will argue with you.

I'll give you guys an example.

3 Dog cast. 1 Dog is treed and while were shinning the other 2 Come in. Judge says the strike is circled and I agreed.

He then goes on to say that so many guys mis-intrepret the rules in this case. Says a lot of guys would minus the strike when a coon is seen and that is not how its done unless they were in there treeing before the cast got in there. I just smiled and thought to myself I hope it doesn't come down to this situation between winning and losihg the cast for you

Trevor, looks like no one else is gonna take the bait on this post, but I will. I am a little confused, you sound like you disagree with the judges call. But when he made it you said you agreed. And your statement that you "hope it doesn't come down to this situation between winning and losihg the cast for you", when you are on record as agreeing with the call. Whether the call is right or wrong if you haven't questioned it at that point you aren't going to get to later. If those points should have been minused [if there was a coon seen in tree] or deleted, it is now too late. YOU AGREED TO THE CALL. I guess you have not made it clear- was a coon seen? If it was then why did you agree with the judge when you know he was wrong? Why wouldn't you question that if you know he is wrong? You do know that you can't question it later right?
Sorry if I have misunderstood your statement, but it looks to me like you agreed with the judge on something that you actually disagree with. If he ends up beating you by 25 points isn't he gonna be the one smiling?

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Truly

In your haste to post back you misinterpreted what he said go back and read the last paragraph again

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GA DAWG
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Id be wanting it circled to if it was my dog coming in. Be wanting it minused if it was mine treed lol.

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In your haste to post back you misinterpreted what he said go back and read the last paragraph again

Right- it appears that a coon was seen. Not totally sure on that. But if a coon was seen then Trevor has agreed with a call that was incorrect. And that he knows is incorrect. And can not be changed later.
We all do know that we can't go back and change things later right? Once a call has been made it is done. Question it then and there or accept that it as it is.
Or am I missing the point that the dog treed belongs to the judge and Trevor accepted circle points the he knows should have been minused . He doesn't make it clear whose dog is treed.

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Hoosier Man1
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Mine was just an example. Truly I hope your not getting into a rule debate with me. Maybe my example wasn't thorough enough.

2 dogs came into a tree being shinned the tree was slick. Our strike gets circled. The judge dais even if there was a coon we still got out strike circled and not minused. Said that's one rule that causes alota lot of arguments.

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It's causing one now

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wagner787
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So wat is the correct way to score if tree is slick?? Or has a coon?

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MUSKY
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if the coon is found the dogs that would have came in would be minused

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quote:
Originally posted by Hoosier Man1
Mine was just an example. Truly I hope your not getting into a rule debate with me. Maybe my example wasn't thorough enough.

2 dogs came into a tree being shinned the tree was slick. Our strike gets circled. The judge dais even if there was a coon we still got out strike circled and not minused. Said that's one rule that causes alota lot of arguments.

IF two dogs came into a slick tree they would get the next available points right? If so you should have been minused the first time.

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damon shivers
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it is

Slick circle - coon seen minus I think its what he is getting art

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GA DAWG
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I could live with it being minus across the board. No circle no nothing. Put the - to em.

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Hoosier Man1
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quote:
Originally posted by GA DAWG
I could live with it being minus across the board. No circle no nothing. Put the - to em.

Now your going to confuse them all

lol

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quote:
Originally posted by DylanHovey
IF two dogs came into a slick tree they would get the next available points right? If so you should have been minused the first time.

That depends on if the dogs were there before or after judge arrives.

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