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trying to find out before i go buy one

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Not in a Nite Hunt. But they ARE ALLOWED in a HTX Hunt. Not sure about the Alpha since it has a shocker for HTX.

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I'm not 100 percent sure. But it think the rule is you can have them but have to be left in the truck. Can't be on you even if they're off.

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You can carry it in pkc. Not in Ukc.

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You can carry a regular Garmin on you but it has to be off. In pkc you can carry alpha but not it Ukc even if it is off.

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Out of curiosity why cant you carry it if its off? You can use it on time outs but by then your usually a 1/2 mile from the truck, so lets trudge back there to find out the dog was and still is only 200 yds from where u were standing? Wonderful rule

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Check out the rule section and read:
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If there are and add on's missed there I am sure someone will chime in.

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The handheld of a Garmin Alpha may not be carried during hunt time because it also has controlling capabilities. The Alpha may however be used during a time out period.

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but if the hand held is shut off don't that turn off the controlling capabilities to.

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Yes it does Jerry.. Not sure what they was thinking in this ruling. It shouldn't be on during huntin time anyhow. Just like the astro or a beep beep tracker. Seth

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Yes it does Jerry.. Not sure what they was thinking in this ruling. It shouldn't be on during huntin time anyhow. Just like the astro or a beep beep tracker. Seth

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Because, training (shock) collars cannot be used during time outs Only after hunt or if dog is scratched and ALL other dogs have been recovered. Alpha MUST be left in truck. I'd be willing to bet there will be some kind of rule change or Garmin will make another update JUST IN TIME TO BUY A NEW ONE AT AO. LOL! I'll bet on the Rule change this year at AO. Rule changes will be voted on this year.

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I bought Alpha without knowing rule, BUT it will definitely be brought up for change at AO. No reason for not being able to carry it in woods, when it's shut off.

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The handheld of a Garmin Alpha may not be carried during hunt time because it also has controlling capabilities. The Alpha may however be used during a time out period.

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The Alpha can be used during timeout to find your dog however if you use the e-collar feature, your azz is grazz and Allen is the lawnmower.

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i thought transmitters for electronic training collars could only be brought out during a time out, and after all other dogs are recovered and the dog wearing said devise is scratched????

so is the alpha not considered a transmitter for electronic training collars???

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Originally posted by T Felderman
Watch, its going to be alot easier for people to get there dogs back on time outs thats for sure. If you know what I mean.

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well looks like I wont be hunting any ukc hunts anytime soon there goes some more money out the window for um~!

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The Alpha can be used during timeout to find your dog however if you use the e-collar feature, your azz is grazz and Allen is the lawnmower.

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If they make the Alphas legal to carry alot of guys with tone broke dogs are in trouble.

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Originally posted by runnin rebels
how do you prove weather or not someone used the ecollar on an alpha?

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It's not a court of law, proof isn't required.
If I say you used it and they believe me instead of you.......get out the lawnmower.

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I kinda figured this wouldn't have to be voted on to change. You know just like the using of Garmins wouldn't. Did Allen not say that here while back??

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The Alpha can be used during timeout to find your dog however if you use the e-collar feature, your azz is grazz and Allen is the lawnmower.

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