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Sounds like the winner has already been determined by the powers that be if she don't get in a wreck. But it's a sport, just like rasslin. LMBO

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You can't beat nascar fans.After the big wreck yesterday they interviewed a lady with a broken leg and laserations as she was being loaded into the meatwagon.She said she was fine and was not going to miss todays race.I would bet that there will be no lawsuits out of the 28 injuries,but all scraps of metal will wind up on a shelf right beside their "Intimidator" picture.

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I used to love it until the 90's when they started really influencing the outcomes of races.

Then decided it was too much like rasslin and only watch occasionally like today.

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Smart move destroying the winning car like that, helps with the inspection when you have had trouble in that area as much as he has LOL.

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I thought it was boring as hell.Except for the first 15 or 20 laps and the last 12 or so,it was single file the whole race.Only excitement was the wrecks and the race off pit road.I don't know if it's that new GEN6 cars or what.I wasn't impressed.
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As that wreck yesterday showed how easy it would be for one of those drivers to get killed , I wonder where they find those guys who are willing to let NASCAR tell them who can win the race and who can't.
If I was risking my life , NOBODY would be telling me whether I could win or not.
THAT just don't make no sense to me.

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Its never been the same for me since the black # 3 has been gone. You couldn't force me to watch one nowdays.

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NASCAR MADE HISTORY TODAY FIRST TIME TWO WOMEN SAT ON THE FRONT ROW OF DAYTONA 500 LOL

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As that wreck yesterday showed how easy it would be for one of those drivers to get killed , I wonder where they find those guys who are willing to let NASCAR tell them who can win the race and who can't.
If I was risking my life , NOBODY would be telling me whether I could win or not.
THAT just don't make no sense to me.

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nascar aint what it use to be.i would like one time to see grease under a drivers fingernail like it used to be.

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don't believe scripted is the correct explanation, influenced yes, by inspection, when flags thrown, etc., if scripted jr. would have won a championship since he is the face of nascar, danica may draw some fans- not sure if they will be the type that become core supporters.... hope the new car races better on non-restricted tracks or will lose more fan base.... no longer race what you brought, test of drivers, now big $$$ and who can afford the most-best....

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You are spot on, those two are SLICKKKKK that is why they are winners to. You know if you ain't rubing U ain't racing and if U ain't cheating U ain't winning. Gota love it though.

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Tony Stewart got in big trouble for admitting they were scripted several years ago. They cut his winning bigtime after that.

It's easy, you control the insepction process, you decide what you let pass or not, you decide who gets fined or who loses points or who don't (case in point one of Dales championships Martin won but they took points from Martin and didn't from Dale, it was the difference in who won the championship that year and that was before they started scripting to the extent they have).

Caution when it benifits some, not others, allow some to speed on pit road, others not.

On and on and on.

The only thing that gets in their way is wrecks.

Oh they would just say they are making it "more competitive" but as Tony put it "scripting" is a better way to say it.

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If it was scripted as much as some think, Dale Jr. would win every race. It wouldn't make much sense to have the most popular driver not winning if it was rigged, right?

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And say what you want about Danica, I'll forever think about her being on a pole at the Daytona 500, just not in the race

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And say what you want about Danica, I'll forever think about her being on a pole at the Daytona 500, just not in the race

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Is all this just your opinion , or can you prove any of it?
If everything was scripted , they wouldn't need any wrecks.
I think it's funny how so many people can see the same thing and have so many different opinions.
A good example is Dale Earnhardt.
Millions of people saw how he would slip up under someones rear end and take the air of their spoiler and loosen them up and then pass them. No matter how many replays showed that he never touched their cars , the other guys fans still swore up and down that he had hit him.

Like I said , does it make sense that guys would go out there and risk their lives if they were told who could win and who couldn't?
Do you think the pitcrews would risk getting killed to do what they do if they knew they couldn't win?

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So that came from a multiple championship winner, not me and I would say what he said before he got in trouble was pretty close to accurate, otherwise they wouldn't have cared.

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So , Stewart loses a race , and then whines that he got cheated.
(Heck , that goes on every week at the nite hunts ! LOL)

If he was leading before the caution was thrown , why wasn't he leading it when they went back green? And if he was , why couldn't he keep the lead?

That link is just to someone who has the same opinion as you do. I didn't see a credible news source listed.

C'mon Rip , you're smarter than that , it just doesn't make any sense.

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But just for you, how are these for "credible"

"Newser) – Two-time champion Tony Stewart charges that NASCAR is rigged like pro wrestling. He said officials control races by throwing bogus caution flags for debris on the track. “They can almost dictate the race instead of the drivers doing it. It’s happened too many times this year," said Stewart on his Sirius Satellite Radio radio show.

The radio appearance was Stewart's first since he lost a race to Jeff Gordon on Saturday and skipped the post-race press conference. Stewart dominated the race until a late exchange of leads he says was caused by four caution flags. "I don’t know that they’ve run a fair race all year."".....


http://www.newser.com/story/1683/ch...-is-rigged.html

How's NBC, are they "credible"

"“I guess NASCAR thinks ’Hey, wrestling worked, and it was for the most part staged, so I guess it’s going to work in racing, too,”’ he said. “I can’t understand how long the fans are going to let NASCAR treat them like they’re stupid before the fans finally turn on NASCAR.

“I don’t know that they’ve run a fair race all year.”

NASCAR called Stewart’s comments “very, very disappointing.”.....................“There are thousands of talented race drivers out there who would consider it an honor to compete in the NASCAR Nextel Cup Series.”"

http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/18312...s-motor_sports/

So there you have it, go with the flow or they will find somebody else to race, which is their perrogative. You asked how and why they would go along with it? Because making millions of dollars while racing against a stacked deck is better than not making that money and not getting to race on that level. Their meddling on the track is exactly the reason they are where they are now with all the old school fans who liked racing instead of rasslin leaving for more honest sports.

Tony is as credible as they come, he's won at least three championships and has won the old Winston Cup, and the Nextel Chase and has won as an owner/driver. He knows his stuff and he spoke the truth.

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B.S.!!

like i posted above no SPONSER or team owner that has never won championship,or some even a race!!!

is gonna waste millions every race knowing there getting "cheated"!!

sounds like a excuse!! he should have stayed with gibbs and home depot.
he wouldn't be crying now!!

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Rip , look at what you're doing......
All you're doing is posting links to Stewart whining about losing a race due to a caution and someone quoting him.
And champion , or not , does not make it true.
Does it make sense the if he really felt that way that he would be putting so much of his own money into owning a race team?
Don't make no sense to me.

Every week , all over the country , there are questionable calls made in all kinds of sports activities from the high school level all the way up to the pro level. Does that mean they are all " rigged"? Or is it possible it was just human error or just a matter of opinion?
If there was a piece of debris laying down on the apron , some folks would say it was nothing to worry about. Others might say it was a hazard.
Have you never made a " bad call "?
Oh , wait a minute , you said Danica was gonna win if she didn't wreck. Didn't happen ! LOL
Not saying that's what happened , but it could have been.

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Rip , look at what you're doing......
All you're doing is posting links to Stewart whining about losing a race due to a caution and someone quoting him.
And champion , or not , does not make it true.
Does it make sense the if he really felt that way that he would be putting so much of his own money into owning a race team?
Don't make no sense to me.

Every week , all over the country , there are questionable calls made in all kinds of sports activities from the high school level all the way up to the pro level. Does that mean they are all " rigged"? Or is it possible it was just human error or just a matter of opinion?
If there was a piece of debris laying down on the apron , some folks would say it was nothing to worry about. Others might say it was a hazard.
Have you never made a " bad call "?
Oh , wait a minute , you said Danica was gonna win if she didn't wreck. Didn't happen ! LOL
Not saying that's what happened , but it could have been.

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And again , all quotes , no links to "real" facts ( not opinionated stories) .

I'm done here.

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