Registered: Mar 2012
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I have a 1yr 8month redbone I've been training. I drag a trapped coon and pull it up a tree and she does great cause she can see the coon. If I drag the coon and dont pull it up the tree and only put scent on the tree she'll track it to the tree but wont tree cause she doesn't see it. Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

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Registered: Apr 2012
Location: Virginia
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What you have done is trained the dog to tree by sight instead of scent and that is something that you never want to do. At 1.8 she should have been in the woods not following drags. Don't show another coon at all and depending on how much its already been done the damage is probably already done. Depending on how much drive and hunt she's got you may put the time in and bring her back around. Turn the coon out without her seeing and let her find the track on her own hopefully she'll be able to run it to the tree that it went up and you'll have to follow her in because if she is only looking for it if she doesn't see it she'll probably leave pretty quick or start running back on the track. Youll have to get her at the tree and fired up. If several times of doing that with no improvement since she has already seen a coon too much may have to let her see it run away and go up to really get her fired up enough but try to do it in a spot where the trees are big enough that she cant just stand there looking at it in the tree or you'll just be back where you started wouldnt do that unless I had to and wouldn't do it more than once. It'll probably take a lot of work if it works at all depending on how long this has gone on.

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I would worrie that much on her age redbones are late starters..well the redbones my uncle hunted were idk how they are now..but if you got someoneyou can go hunting with that has a good solid coondog that will put the pup under coons..tie her back and let her see you love on that other dog and if the guy don't mind knock that coon out to the dog but don't let her get eny of it...kind of let her get a hint as to what he is barken at...but other thenbthat just keep turn her back praisen and liven the old dog and after awhile she should get out of it and start backing the other dog then you want to knock that coon out to her...only if she does a good job though don't reward her for a half ass job or she will just half ass all the time...then start hunting her on her own and give her time and time and time... Haha

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I would worrie that much on her age redbones are late starters..well the redbones my uncle hunted were idk how they are now..but if you got someoneyou can go hunting with that has a good solid coondog that will put the pup under coons..tie her back and let her see you love on that other dog and if the guy don't mind knock that coon out to the dog but don't let her get eny of it...kind of let her get a hint as to what he is barken at...but other thenbthat just keep turn her back praisen and liven the old dog and after awhile she should get out of it and start backing the other dog then you want to knock that coon out to her...only if she does a good job though don't reward her for a half ass job or she will just half ass all the time...then start hunting her on her own and give her time and time and time... Haha

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I agree that a lot of redbones are later starters and I actually don't really believe in starting any breed of pup real early but I still like to see them in the woods and not running drag after drag and being shown coon after coon. But wether its 3 months or 3 years if you're getting one used to treeing by sight vs scent you're going backwards.

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Originally posted by VaBirdDog
I agree that a lot of redbones are later starters and I actually don't really believe in starting any breed of pup real early but I still like to see them in the woods and not running drag after drag and being shown coon after coon. But wether its 3 months or 3 years if you're getting one used to treeing by sight vs scent you're going backwards.

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Registered: Mar 2012
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Thanks for the advice. Guess I'm doing a good job of ruining her lol. Do u guys think I should go back to the basics? Should I run a drag put scent on the tree and hide the drag?

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I would stop with drags, hides, etc...could already be too late to correct...



Almost 2 years old...it better be treeing its own coon or I wont be the one feeding it...


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I dont know how to go about fixing one that wants to tree by sight....ive never messed with scent, drags, hides etc....i show em a caged coon once maybe twice tops...let the coon out and let the dog watch it run off...i personally tree the coon myself so i know it treed...too often a coon in the day runs for holes or where ever it can..let the dog go tree it..pet and praise the dog a bunch...knock it out dead...pet and praise the dog...take it to the woods at nite where there aughta be a hot coon track....dog aughta do something if it got what it needs....


A dog will learn to track on its own...scents and drags and hides have no place with me...i rather the dog learn to trail live coon...they smell a bit different than.a hide, road kill, or bottled scent IMO...and run different places that i would with a drag...and a dog can and will trail your scent as well when running drags etc...


Everyone has their own methods and beliefs....but we will all likely agree a coon dog dont need to he treeing by sight...

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