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myers
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persimmon trees

i hate them coons love them. why are they allways slick when my dog trees on them?

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You ain't by yoursef on that. ha You know, I've hunted all of my life and I still can't tell you how those coon disapear. One of the long debated misteries.

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An opossum hide out! I cringe on my way to one

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i to have hunted all my life and i cant remember ever seeing a coon in one

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coon get the fruit all over there feet dog cant tell were they came down and left

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a lot of coon scent left round persimmon trees. ive treed coons in them, but also treed slick in them to.lol

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I had an older gentelman tell me a few years ago " Son if a dog wont tree on a persimmon tree he ain't worth having". It sure is aggrivating though.

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ok

im new to coon hunting going on my second year and the most i have learned about it is from my dogs and me hunting alone i took dogs out last nite and they treed on a emty tree and i just figured cause how dogs cold trail they treed on a cold tree i figured so them coon are sneaky huh/ lol\

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I've started marking all the persimmon trees I can find on my Garmin so at least I ain't too disappointed when I walk in there and find it slick.

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my little dog loaded up on one the other night and sounded goooood,walked in there and of course it was slick. knocked me out of winning my cast at a pkc pro am,all i needed was for that sucker to be there

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quote:
Originally posted by vernonsdream
An opossum hide out!


The 1st time I treed a coon and a opossum in the same tree it was a persimmon tree.

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quote:
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coon get the fruit all over there feet dog cant tell were they came down and left

your right coon are going up and down the tree all the time but when they get the fruit on there feet dogs cant tell where they left at. so there are alot of sent on the tree and no trail leaving the tree, dogs have no choice but to slick

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Persimmon Trees

Fellow Hunters;; I venture to say== around 90% of Hunters under 30 yrs old, have not seen, what use to be called a [real good tree dog]. These type hounds are being breed out by competition hunters who want a fast tree dog.

Years back people hunted trail dogs that would tree where the track ended; These dogs knew the track they smelled and would stay with it until the end. While trailing if they lost the track, they searched until it was found. If it was only found going up a tree, then they barked up the tree and the game was there when the hunter arrived!!!

In one sense of the word== Dogs don't tree because the Coon went up== they tree because it didn't come down.

You guys whose dogs are Slick treeing on Persimmon trees, have modern dogs!!!!!

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Re: Persimmon Trees

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Fellow Hunters;; I venture to say== around 90% of Hunters under 30 yrs old, have not seen, what use to be called a [real good tree dog]. These type hounds are being breed out by competition hunters who want a fast tree dog.

Years back people hunted trail dogs that would tree where the track ended; These dogs knew the track they smelled and would stay with it until the end. While trailing if they lost the track, they searched until it was found. If it was only found going up a tree, then they barked up the tree and the game was there when the hunter arrived!!!

In one sense of the word== Dogs don't tree because the Coon went up== they tree because it didn't come down.

You guys whose dogs are Slick treeing on Persimmon trees, have modern dogs!!!!!


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Re: Persimmon Trees

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Fellow Hunters;; I venture to say== around 90% of Hunters under 30 yrs old, have not seen, what use to be called a [real good tree dog]. These type hounds are being breed out by competition hunters who want a fast tree dog.

Years back people hunted trail dogs that would tree where the track ended; These dogs knew the track they smelled and would stay with it until the end. While trailing if they lost the track, they searched until it was found. If it was only found going up a tree, then they barked up the tree and the game was there when the hunter arrived!!!

In one sense of the word== Dogs don't tree because the Coon went up== they tree because it didn't come down.

You guys whose dogs are Slick treeing on Persimmon trees, have modern dogs!!!!!



Dogs been treeing slick persimmon trees for 50 years.

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LOL

My Uncle is 73 years old. He has been hunting since he was 6 years old. He said he has been seeing dogs miss on persimmon trees as long as he can remember. He told me there have only been a couple(that he's seen) to move a track away from a persimmon tree. On a side note the persimmons are thick here this year. We also have muscadines left on the vines.

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Re: Persimmon Trees

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Originally posted by Plott55
Fellow Hunters;; I venture to say== around 90% of Hunters under 30 yrs old, have not seen, what use to be called a [real good tree dog]. These type hounds are being breed out by competition hunters who want a fast tree dog.

Years back people hunted trail dogs that would tree where the track ended; These dogs knew the track they smelled and would stay with it until the end. While trailing if they lost the track, they searched until it was found. If it was only found going up a tree, then they barked up the tree and the game was there when the hunter arrived!!!

In one sense of the word== Dogs don't tree because the Coon went up== they tree because it didn't come down.

You guys whose dogs are Slick treeing on Persimmon trees, have modern dogs!!!!!



I guess you have hunted with all our dogs then haven't you. My grandpa says the same things and he has been hunting since the 40's. I guess he must have had modern dogs his whole life.

During the 2007-08 coon season I kept track of every tree. Bo was 124-145 of trees with coons seen. 8 of those misses were persimmon trees and that was the only 8 times all season I treed in persimmon trees. 6 of those were the same tree during about a 2 1/2 week period.

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I've hunted hounds , cur , airedales , jack russells and running hounds all my life ... and I've seen some that would get fooled now and then by a hackberry tree or persimmon grove.


But , for a good hound it better be rare .... we've treed tons of coons in persimmons .

It's like the coon that crosses the road argument .. and folks that say they never seen a dog that can be dumped out and take the track ... etc , etc.

I wouldn't venture to guess why they slick on persimmons or can't run a hot coon out of the road ... but just as much as folks still feed the ones that can't .... I will keep feeding the ones that can !

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