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oklared
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SOCIAL SECURITY/FEDERAL BENIFIT PAYMENT

SOCIAL SECURITY NOW CALLED 'FEDERAL BENEFIT PAYMENT'/ENTITLEMENT!

Have you noticed, your Social Security check is now referred to as a "Federal Benefit Payment"?

I'll be part of the one percent to forward this.

I am forwarding it because it touches a nerve in me, and I hope it will in you.

Please keep passing it on until everyone in our country has read it.

The government is now referring to our Social Security checks as a “Federal Benefit Payment.”
This isn’t a benefit – its earned income!
Not only did we all contribute to Social Security but our employers did too.

It totaled 15% of our income before taxes.
If you averaged $30K per year over your working life, that's close to $180,000 invested in Social Security.

If you calculate the future value of your monthly investment in social security ($375/month, including both
your and your employer’s contributions) at a meager 1% interest rate compounded monthly, after 40 years of
working you'd have more than $1.3+ million dollars saved! This is your personal investment.

Upon retirement, if you took out only 3% per year, you'd receive $39,318 per year, or $3,277 per month.

That’s almost three times more than today’s average Social Security benefit of $1,230 per month, according to the
Social Security Administration (Google it - it’s a fact).

And your retirement fund would last more than 33 years (until you're 98 if you retire at age 65)!
I can only imagine how much better most average-income people could live in retirement if our government had
just invested our money in low-risk interest-earning accounts.

Instead, the folks in Washington pulled off a bigger Ponzi scheme than Bernie Madoff ever did.
They took our money and used it elsewhere. They “forgot” that it was OUR money they were taking.
They didn’t have a referendum to ask us if we wanted to lend the money to them.

And they didn’t pay interest on the debt they assumed.
And recently, they’ve told us that the money won’t support us for very much longer.
But is it our fault they misused our investments?

And now, to add insult to injury, they’re calling it a “benefit,” as if we never worked to earn every penny of it.
Just because they “borrowed” the money, doesn't mean that our investments were acharity!
Let’s take a stand.

We have earned our right to Social Security and Medicare.
Demand that our legislators bring some sense into our government –

Find a way to keep Social Security and Medicare going, for the sake of that 92% of our population who need it.

Then call it what it is:

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That's what it's been called from the get go. See just everybody on here talking about something that they don't know anything about, cept me.

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Yes and the Republicans what to do away with it

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quote:
Originally posted by BIG$BLUES
Yes and the Republicans what to do away with it


We do need to do away with it and I have been paying in for 25 years.
I think if you are 45 and older, it should be mandatory to keep it like it is. If you are 40-45 you can choose to opt in or out, if you opt out or under age 40, you develope your own retirement plan.
What would be wrong with that?
When this program was started, it was believed that 80% of the folks paying into it would never draw a dime out of it. Now people are living longer and it is so easy to get on disability now, it is being drained too quick.

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ALONG WITH EVERYTHING ELSE BEING RUN IN THE GROUND.

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i payed

into social security form time i was 18 and started getting it at 61 because of parkisons diease and i worked probly 10 yrs with this diease and i dont cosider it a benifit i derserve every penny i get which aint a whole lot

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Re: i payed

quote:
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into social security form time i was 18 and started getting it at 61 because of parkisons diease and i worked probly 10 yrs with this diease and i dont cosider it a benifit i derserve every penny i get which aint a whole lot
I have to agree with you ,,, I've paid into it for like 53 years myself and I don't want it taken away !!

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I have to agree with you ,,, I've paid into it for like 53 years myself and I don't want it taken away !!
yea you work and pay into it all your life and they dont want to pay you what you should get gov wants to keep it for them selfs then they say that the ssi for people that never worked get medical card a check every month and they say that its a separte program but i belive it comes right out of the social security funds of people that is working or that have worked most of thier life

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quote:
Originally posted by billy doyce
That's what it's been called from the get go. See just everybody on here talking about something that they don't know anything about, cept me.


I'm glad I finally get to ask someone that knows it all just how much of the Social Security fund has been used to buy national debt? China holds about 8%. federal reserve and Social Security hold a much larger chunk. Go ahead and leave the spenders we have now in another 4 years and you won't have to worry about it.

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jmo

i think mr doyce must be kin to solo sammy they seem to know it all i dont im just a dumb hillbilly with a 8th grade ed but i do got enough sense to know that every politican is as dishonset as they need to get voted in and thats who runs our gov

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If I collect $1,985 per month I will have Exhausted My/Employer Contrabutions in less than 8 years ..
I'm right at that $180K mark right now at 53 years old ..
I have paid SS since i was 14 years old with only one year missed due to a Employer that Took all the Money and Split and is unheard of till this day .. 39 years of payments

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I have paid into SS starting at 16 years old. I have retired and truthfully, I needed to retire because I can no longer work the way I did in my younger years. I have made other retirement investments that are working for me but my SS checks help. I think it was a good plan that pays off in the long run.

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As far as I am concerned, they can call it what they want as long as they keep sending it. It does not bother me one bit what they call it.

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Re: SOCIAL SECURITY/FEDERAL BENIFIT PAYMENT

quote:
Originally posted by oklared
SOCIAL SECURITY NOW CALLED 'FEDERAL BENEFIT PAYMENT'/ENTITLEMENT!

Have you noticed, your Social Security check is now referred to as a "Federal Benefit Payment"?

I'll be part of the one percent to forward this.

I am forwarding it because it touches a nerve in me, and I hope it will in you.

Please keep passing it on until everyone in our country has read it.

The government is now referring to our Social Security checks as a “Federal Benefit Payment.”
This isn’t a benefit – its earned income!
Not only did we all contribute to Social Security but our employers did too.

It totaled 15% of our income before taxes.
If you averaged $30K per year over your working life, that's close to $180,000 invested in Social Security.

If you calculate the future value of your monthly investment in social security ($375/month, including both
your and your employer’s contributions) at a meager 1% interest rate compounded monthly, after 40 years of
working you'd have more than $1.3+ million dollars saved! This is your personal investment.

Upon retirement, if you took out only 3% per year, you'd receive $39,318 per year, or $3,277 per month.

That’s almost three times more than today’s average Social Security benefit of $1,230 per month, according to the
Social Security Administration (Google it - it’s a fact).

And your retirement fund would last more than 33 years (until you're 98 if you retire at age 65)!
I can only imagine how much better most average-income people could live in retirement if our government had
just invested our money in low-risk interest-earning accounts.

Instead, the folks in Washington pulled off a bigger Ponzi scheme than Bernie Madoff ever did.
They took our money and used it elsewhere. They “forgot” that it was OUR money they were taking.
They didn’t have a referendum to ask us if we wanted to lend the money to them.

And they didn’t pay interest on the debt they assumed.
And recently, they’ve told us that the money won’t support us for very much longer.
But is it our fault they misused our investments?

And now, to add insult to injury, they’re calling it a “benefit,” as if we never worked to earn every penny of it.
Just because they “borrowed” the money, doesn't mean that our investments were acharity!
Let’s take a stand.

We have earned our right to Social Security and Medicare.
Demand that our legislators bring some sense into our government –

Find a way to keep Social Security and Medicare going, for the sake of that 92% of our population who need it.

Then call it what it is:

Let me get this straight, Don, you're concerned about losing your Social Security, and you support Romney/Ryan; they're the ones that are going take it away from you. Tom

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Let me get this straight, Don, you're concerned about losing your Social Security, and you support Romney/Ryan; they're the ones that are going take it away from you. Tom
100% true

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