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A "Walker Person" can make snide comments about other dog breeds( see "Treeing Question" by Bluetick guy) But when "another breed person" says something about "slick treeing Walkers" they get chastised? Is it the one bad apple theory or what? I see this all of the time and I always think why do you have put something down, that you don't know anything about? Isn't that defined as ignorance?

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I think it is called only seeing things from your side of view. not a big deal. The others always run down the black and white, because they are so sad from getting whupped.

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There have been a couple bluetick fanciers that continuosly trash walker breeders and competition hunters. I guess some of us (walker breeders) take about three steps back in our behavior after reading it time and time again. I am very sorry for any hurt feelings that any of us who have made comments have caused.

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i am on a personal quest to find a " off-color" dog, as in not black and white, that can "whup" the hide off my husbands walker dogs. LOL

he keeps bringing more of the darn things home LOL

first one we traded an english pup for, great dog , second we got an auction for next to nothing, awsome dog and the third was given to us last weekend

the 3rd we are going to try out but will most likley give to a young hunter we know.

I have 2 english and mabye a few pups on the way, and i told him next time i run across someone wanting to give me anything but a walker he better not say a word. LOL

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From what I have noticed most walker dog guys are of a typical kind and nature. They feel "entitled" just because they are walker dogs owners. They expect all others to pay homage and bow the knee to them and there dogs because they feel that all others are somehow inferior human beings with inferior dogs. They dont competition hunt for fun, to make friends, to enjoy friendly competition or any thing like that. They competition hunt for MONEY, TITLES, TO SELL PUPPIES, GET STUD FEE BUSINESS.
They have allready got more money than they know what to do with and now plan on increasing that nestegg with some "investments" in the coonhound world. They are "promoters". The more bragging they do on there dog the better. They are BUSINESSMEN. People dont matter, principles dont matter, what matters is MONEY AND FAME. They love to stick there chest out and brag on what all accomplishments there dogs have, all the while looking down there noses at all other people and dogs. There own mother could be on a cast competeing against them and they will lie, cheat, and twist the rules any way they can just the same to get a win a put a title on ole so and so. When it comes down to competition hunting, they beleive in doing WHATEVER IT TAKES. PERIOD.

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hey i been running my english pup with these walkers , mabye she'll learn something LOL

hey I know when to admit defeat LOL

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now sheep i dont think that you can generalize like that.

I dont know one walker owner that fits that description.

guys, look at the numbers, that is why they are winning all the time, and most of those guys have earned those bragging rights

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I said "MOST". Not all. I have a few good friends that hunt walker dogs. Good friends. Now with that all being said, well move on to another subject in this same catagory. Money. You see folks, it all boils down to money. Let me ask you guys the question. And this goes for both UKC and PKC. Who pays UKC's and PKC's bills???? hhhmmmmmm???? think on that one now. who???? I'll tell you who. About 5, 328, 856, 329 walker dog owners. thats who. Now that weve got that established lets move on. I ask you the question now, WHO DOES UKC CARE ABOUT?????? Who can they afford to make mad or lose and who can they not afford to make mad and lose????? The answer is simple. They know full well that they CANNOT AFFORD to make those walker boys mad. They know it and the walker boys know it too. Thus, you have the rules set up the way they are in the competition hunts. By walker dogs, about walker dogs, and for walker dogs. questions????

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A minute ago- There are a few bluetick fellas on here like the sheep who constantly keep boo hooooing about walkers etc.

Sheep I do in fact have the most electrifying dogs alive today! As far as beating my mother I did not cheat- the blue dog she was hunting got hung up and lost the track when it came across a possum terd. You and the other fella on here all the time should hook up and bring that dog power to Iowa for a hunt you guys judge. I know you are unemployed so I will pay gas oneway for you two. Just let me know ONE nite before you get here so I have time to tune the walkers up.

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[QUOTE]Originally posted by ladycoonhuntr
[B]i am on a personal quest to find a " off-color" dog,


ME TOO!!!

My goal is to have my picture on the cover of a magazine sitting in a brand new truck with a dog that ISN'T A WALKER!! lol
If my bluetick doesn't work out does anyone have a redbone or a plott that I can borrow?

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I am pretty sure in my post, I never mentioned anything about winning. I just wanted some info on the comments side. Is it just about winning? If it is it all makes sense, if not it all seems kind of pointless.

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[ You and the other fella on here all the time



i hope i am not the "other fella"
cause i WAS NOT jumping on sheep's band wagon, our best dogs are walkers,

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No maam Lady Coonhunter you are not.

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examples......... why do you think the world hunt is held with all the leaves still on?????

why do you think that they still alow all those slick trees to be simply "circled"????

why do you think that the world hunt is almost allways held in the same ole region??? the northeast???

why do you think that they give the dogs a "grace period" for babbling???? why?????? not just a few barks but a whole minute............

why do you think that the hunts are set up so that the two very worst things a dog can do is change there mind and leave a tree or tree a possom????? But yet all the slick trees in the world wont hurt a dog a bit.......... just circle em.......

think on these things and you'll see. The competition hunts are for walker dogs. Period.
Now, its got to the point that the walker boys have so much power and influence that they have ukc and pkc competeing against each other to see who can accomodate and serve the walker dogs and there owners even more. Heck, in pkc you dont even have to see a single coon to have a cast winner.
So now, with all that being said, its easy to see why about 75% to 85% of all the breeders of all these other non-walker dogs are doing there very best to breed for a dog that is just your typical walker dog. It all makes sense if you think about it.

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ME TOO!!!

My goal is to have my picture on the cover of a magazine sitting in a brand new truck with a dog that ISN'T A WALKER!! lol
If my bluetick doesn't work out does anyone have a redbone or a plott that I can borrow? [/B][/QUOTE]



that would be awsome LOL

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Sheep they do not allow slick trees and babbling. You need to have some common sense here. The babbling rule is there because the first drop the dogs are usually wound up and raring to go. You take your dog and drive 5-6 hrs and see how she acts when you stand her next to 3 other hounds ready to go. If she doesnt get all excited she must not have much drive. I cannot stand a babbling dog anymore than the next guy. Use your common sense if it is every drop and the guy is striking his dog he is going to get minused.

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YOU KNOW A SLICK TREE IS A SLICK TREE ASK THE LAST CAST I WAS ON 3 WALKERS AND ONE SLICK TREE JUST HOW IT GOES

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minused???? how is the dog going to get minused??? heck, you should understand this mr. Trevis. My goodness, look at your location. Your from Iowa man. You mean to tell me that not one of 4 different dogs are not gonna find something to bark at in IOWA IN 8 MINUTES TIME????

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Sheep they do not allow slick trees and babbling. You need to have some common sense here. The babbling rule is there because the first drop the dogs are usually wound up and raring to go. You take your dog and drive 5-6 hrs and see how she acts when you stand her next to 3 other hounds ready to go. If she doesnt get all excited she must not have much drive. I cannot stand a babbling dog anymore than the next guy. Use your common sense if it is every drop and the guy is striking his dog he is going to get minused.

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AMEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Sheep my dogs are straight as an arrow, I have not had to break a dog in years. I have never been minused for running fast game and have been minused twice in 10 yrs. for treeing a possum. I have taken many minus on cold nights for strike points because the dog was not opening enough.

By the way when do you want to come for a hunt? You me and JV. We will take dogs hunting and just figure out what they are doing right or wrong.

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Mike trevis, you line my blue bitch up beside the 3 most "wound-up-est" dogs you can possibly find in this world and if theres not a track of some sort to smell and strike on SHE DONT BARK. And she will usually leave out just as fast as the other dogs do and get gone just like them. And NO, she has NEVER, EVER, EVER had to be shocked for babbling. She just aint a babbling idiot. She dont see the sense in that just like she dont see the sense in barking over and over and over up slick trees.

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Mike your dogs may be as straight as you say they are. Who knows, I dont. But you didnt answer a single one of my questions.

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Sheep the casts I have hunted on are usually very honest. Sure you get a guy every now and then that will try to say this or that or get the cast to agree not to minus. Most of the guys I have competed against are harder on themselves than the judge is. I have had casts where they have flat out cheated, and I swore I would never hunt comp. again. I decided I was not going to let a few uncouth fellas with junk for dogs get the better of me. I rarely have anyone try to cheat anymore. I dont know what to tell you sheep, if your not going to be a part of the solution your just a part of the problem. Your dog is UKC registered so go to the hunts and be a part of keeping them honest. If your at a tree that they want to circle and you know without a doubt that it is slick- speak up. If there is the possibility that the coon could be there then vote to circle just like the RULES say.

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Mr. Trevis, what you say is both noble and right, but, we all know what happens when some unknown fellow gets on a cast and tries to "rock the boat". Know what I mean?

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