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need to get on the phone to your DNR and demand an answer why this is happening.
there may be more than meets the eye going on here, but this is crazy.

http://www.naturalnews.com/035585_M...arms_raids.html

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never heard of such a thing!! whats behind this and why?
a farmer can't raise pigs in mich.?

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WOW..not good !!!!something needs to be done...

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Here is what it is about. The state wants to eliminate feral pigs not domesticated swine.

http://www.michigan.gov/dnr/0,1607,...48245--,00.html

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Here is what it is about. The state wants to eliminate feral pigs not domesticated swine.

http://www.michigan.gov/dnr/0,1607,...48245--,00.html

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if there on a farm,how are they considered feral?
unless there not properly cared for and get out alot.i can see that as a problem.
no season/license needed on feral pigs.free pork!!supposed to be here in branch co.i've never seen them or any damage/signs of them.

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Many of these guys are breeding old world, Eurasian, and/or Russians were selling their stock to hunting facilities.

They are not raiding farmers with domestic swine.

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You always have to consider the source. In this case the News outlet "Natural News.com" They definatly spin it in a bias way. I am in no way trying to defend the DNR, but I think it is important to always look at something from different angles. Larry is corect the DNR are trying to stop the spread of Feral Pigs. There are getting to be some around here.

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You always have to consider the source. In this case the News outlet "Natural News.com" They definatly spin it in a bias way. I am in no way trying to defend the DNR, but I think it is important to always look at something from different angles. Larry is corect the DNR are trying to stop the spread of Feral Pigs. There are getting to be some around here.

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The dnr is Not going on domestic pork farms, the enforcement is taking place on shooting preserve ranches and the farmer breeders raising these russian breeds among some others. Rest assured bacon and ham production is not being impacted. LOL

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HAD QUITE A PART OF HIS PROGRAM DEVOTED TO THIS ON THE RADIO TODAY . I THINK THE S**T HIT THE FAN THIS MORNING IN LANSING WITH DNR AND I THINK THE BILL DOESN'T HAVE A CHANCE THE WAY IT IS WRITTEN .

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I'd be in favor of banning any hog feral or non-domestic. We don't need that problem in our State on the outside of pens and I have no personal use for pen hunts. Just my opinion.

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feral hogs are a major problem anywhere they are allowed to be. Extermination is the only answer to keeping the troubles they cause to a minimum.

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Just listened to the interview. These arent ferel hogs just farmers raising exotic species for specialty markets. DNR, is out of control.

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Just listened to the interview. These arent ferel hogs just farmers raising exotic species for specialty markets. DNR, is out of control.

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You guys that are so quick to see a law eliminate something you dont like should consider that the next thing they come after might be something you care about.

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I'd be in favor of banning any hog feral or non-domestic. We don't need that problem in our State on the outside of pens and I have no personal use for pen hunts. Just my opinion.

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UKC. probably registers quite a few dogs that wouldnt exist if there were no hogs to hunt.

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Just for the fun of discussion....you think so? What I posted above is just my personal opinion and not that of my employer because I do not want to see a hog problem in this State like there is in so many others. But for discussion purposes, I'm not sure about the above quote. I'm guessing a high percentage of those dog are not UKC registered to begin with and the ones that are, would probably be seeing action on bears, cats or coons if there weren't any hogs.

I respect your opinion John. Just curious....

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near howell in cohoctah no one can raise pigs

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Todd i guess i dont really have an opinion on hogs because we dont have any, but huntin them with dogs sure looks like alot of fun, and they gotta be better eatin than a coon. My only issue is with a govt. agency deciding what someone can raise on their own property.

Just remember you dont like hogs. DEER hunters dont like coondogs.

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You don't want wild hogs. That's a fact! We are over run with em in lots of places. They move in. Other critters move out. You can't kill em all. Can't even kill enough to control them. You kill 10 and in a month 20 have moved back in. Folks claim they like to eat em. I do to if they are under 125lb. Over that. Might as well let the buzzards eat.I kill every one I come across and dont stop shooting till all the pigs are gone.. I've killed truck loads of the nasty critters. I wish we could poison them legally!!!

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Don't know how it happened story is some got loose from a game ranch others say some yahoos brought some cute little ones from the south I really dont care how or why I just dont want them too get a foothold anywhere in our state. So go dnr JMHO

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These dog hog hunters will catch a bunch up off places. Get. 30 or so together. Feed em good and get em tamed down just a little.Take them up the rd and turn em all out where they were not any hogs. Killed 6 one day with a muzzle loader. Boars teeth were all cut out. Sow had no ears. Just stood there and let me kill em lol.

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like the coyotes and mnt lions/cougars?
nobody{dnr} will give a straight answer on them.
denied mnt lion/cougar were here until my brother got a pic of one in his backyard.
dnr officer over phone;"there is no mnt. lions in branch co."....until he came over and seen pic.
"sure isn't a very big one,i'm guessing its pretty young for its size".and left.
ok,where's the rest of litter or better yet the parents!!!
another guy has pic of 1 on game camera.

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