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I was on cast Friday night. Originally a 4 dog cast, but 1 withdrew. 3 dogs are cut loose. All dogs strike quick & 2 tree about 100-200 yds right up a field edge. The 2 dogs treeing start fighting but stop quickly. Cast closed the distance & they start fight again. The 2 dog owners rush in to handle the dogs before the 5 is up. The agressor of the fight was not determined.
How should this tree be scored?

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No need to score it, both dogs are scratched for fighting.

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No need to score it, both dogs are scratched for fighting.

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Or scratched for handling their dogs before the tree was dead. Whatever you prefer

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Or scratched for handling their dogs before the tree was dead. Whatever you prefer

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Or scratched for handling their dogs before the tree was dead. Whatever you prefer

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Another question ? Was on a cast Saturday night where dogs begin to fight and the only one who seen the dog fight was the judge, as the other cast members were coming up a bluff bank. How many cast members must see the fight for the aggressor to be scratched?

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Another question ? Was on a cast Saturday night where dogs begin to fight and the only one who seen the dog fight was the judge, as the other cast members were coming up a bluff bank. How many cast members must see the fight for the aggressor to be scratched?

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Judges decision should be enough, the guy who is scratched could ask for a vote but he wont win.

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Another question ? Was on a cast Saturday night where dogs begin to fight and the only one who seen the dog fight was the judge, as the other cast members were coming up a bluff bank. How many cast members must see the fight for the aggressor to be scratched?

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joe, your question assumes you must see a fight to know it happened. We all know you don't. If the judge sees the fight and scratches the dog, the only way it can be overturned is if the cast majority convinces the MOH there was no fight. Bottom line......you gonna own up to what happened or lie to the MOH?

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Those two dogs are scratched for fighting and written up.

I'd like to put a twist on your question if you don't mind -

4 Dog cast.
Four dogs strike, Three dogs tree.
The five is running and the cast hears a fight and rushes into the tree.
Two dogs are balled up fighting, the third is still treeing.

The two fighters are scratched. The 5-minutes is still running.
Do you stay there or back off a few yards and let the lone dog tree until the 5-minutes is up and to see if the fourth dog will cover the tree? Or what exactly? EDIT: What if the handler of the treed dog handled the dog?

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Yes, you back out and continue to run the 5. There is no exception to the 5 minute rule that I know of unless all dogs are treed and you indicate a 4th dog is still trailing. You can't handle a dog at the tree before the 5 is up. If you do that is a scratch. Atleast that is how I understand it. I have been wrong before.

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Yes, you back out and continue to run the 5. There is no exception to the 5 minute rule that I know of unless all dogs are treed and you indicate a 4th dog is still trailing. You can't handle a dog at the tree before the 5 is up. If you do that is a scratch. Atleast that is how I understand it. I have been wrong before.

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dont you have to find the aggressor before u can scratch? also if you run into a tree before 5 is up it should be minus, not scratch correct?? prolly should of held back with lights off until aggressor was spotted.

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dont you have to find the aggressor before u can scratch? also if you run into a tree before 5 is up it should be minus, not scratch correct?? prolly should of held back with lights off until aggressor was spotted.

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2 dogs treed and you hear a bunch of bs going on so the cast moves in close to tree to observe the 2 dogs treeing while there is still 2 min left on tree. Dog A peels dog B off of tree and both dogs are in a real humdinger now. We know dog A is scratched for being the aggressor but lets say dog B is on top of dog A... can dog B be handled to stop the fight or would you have to wait until A was on top or the five was up?

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2 dogs treed and you hear a bunch of bs going on so the cast moves in close to tree to observe the 2 dogs treeing while there is still 2 min left on tree. Dog A peels dog B off of tree and both dogs are in a real humdinger now. We know dog A is scratched for being the aggressor but lets say dog B is on top of dog A... can dog B be handled to stop the fight or would you have to wait until A was on top or the five was up?

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According to where the third dog was. I don't have to see crap to scratch 2 of them.

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scratch em both. write them up and keep the alligators at home. My dog isnt mean and its a load of crap to have to worry about her getting ate up in a cast. If a dog is an alligator scratchem or shoot em jmo

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WHEN YOU KNOW THE AGGRESSOR YOU SCRATCH THE AGGRESSOR!!!! I would call interference, time out, gather remaining dogs and move on with the cast. Jeez, I can't believe you guys that are so willing to start scratching (eliminating, in my mind) a dog that shouldn't be scratched. He clearly stated that the aggressor was known. To stand by and watch two dogs fight could be qualified as unsportsman like conduct. If you as a judge watch a dog start a fight and scratch both dogs a report is going to UKC and I am going to do my best to make sure you never handle a card again.

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WHEN YOU KNOW THE AGGRESSOR YOU SCRATCH THE AGGRESSOR!!!! I would call interference, time out, gather remaining dogs and move on with the cast. Jeez, I can't believe you guys that are so willing to start scratching (eliminating, in my mind) a dog that shouldn't be scratched. He clearly stated that the aggressor was known. To stand by and watch two dogs fight could be qualified as unsportsman like conduct. If you as a judge watch a dog start a fight and scratch both dogs a report is going to UKC and I am going to do my best to make sure you never handle a card again.

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Scratch them both . If an inocent dog gets caught he shouldnt have anything to worry about down the road . I would gladly let my dog take one for team to get a gator wrote up , and if he is touchy or mean I wont hual him to town to begin with

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Yes, you back out and continue to run the 5. There is no exception to the 5 minute rule that I know of unless all dogs are treed and you indicate a 4th dog is still trailing. You can't handle a dog at the tree before the 5 is up. If you do that is a scratch. Atleast that is how I understand it. I have been wrong before.

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Per the UKC rule book - a dog will be scratched for fighting or attempting to fight during the authority of the judge. Dogs name, UKC number and owner's name will be reported to UKC on Nite Hunt report form. No handler will be allowed to scratch his dog to avoid his dog from being scratched for fighting. When the aggressor dog is known, scratch the aggressor only. If not known, scratch dogs involved.

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