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tree'em20
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tight mouth track dogs thats have won big???

What tight/silent dogs out there that have done alot of winning?

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Not to many in UKC. If your dog is consistently getting 25 on strike and 125 on tree that's 150,

A dog getting 100 and backing yours all night long wins far to often.

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not just UKC, talking everything over all.....

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not just UKC, talking everything over all.....


That's a tough question but I assure you way more tight mouth dogs wi in the other kc then in UKC.

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Tight on track has nothing to do with not getting first strike.

There was a walker named Scar that won the world a few years back. Seems to me the article I read said he was tight on track. Got split a lot because he didn't have a lot of tagalongs.

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If someone can find the scorecard that was posted for the Final Four of the World Hunt that Janice Joplin won, you would see a score that won it all with a low strike dog.

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Tite mouth dogs can be 1st strike dogs!

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I know of a couple nt ch and grntch that did not open until just before treed.

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Tight mouth dogs can win especially on a 1 or 2 coon cast. If you have a barking type dog that gets by thereself abunch, that's hard to beat.

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quote:
Originally posted by Hoosier Man1
That's a tough question but I assure you way more tight mouth dogs wi in the other kc then in UKC.


i agree and disagree. In a two hour maybe. But the 1 hour weekday hunts the strike dog dominates. thats why i hate them 1 hr hunts

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tight mouth

iv HERD that briar creek zeb and that hard knockin big momma were both pretty tight. they have both done some winning.

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I don't know anything about pointing dogs and their current scoring system in competition. From the old stories I have read I believe a dog was expected to back. Might or might not have got points for backing but for sure was not penalized. It sure would be agravating to have four independent Pointers headed for parts unknown. And they were all tight mouth to my knowledge.

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Re: tight mouth

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iv HERD that briar creek zeb and that hard knockin big momma were both pretty tight. they have both done some winning.


Stilling strikes with a great handler, can't do that now, i've been out of hunting for 25 years you just can't still strikes. Now boys I know we all have done so years ago! Not saying any bad, I hunted alot with whom i call the greatest Handler of his time when he was younger R. B.

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You tell'um young man

quote:
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i agree and disagree. In a two hour maybe. But the 1 hour weekday hunts the strike dog dominates. thats why i hate them 1 hr hunts


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i agree and disagree. In a two hour maybe. But the 1 hour weekday hunts the strike dog dominates. thats why i hate them 1 hr hunts


Must be different in the thicker coon areas because here you will be lucky to score on more than one coon in an hour and whichever dog treed it will be your winner just about every time.

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Think about it

I hunt a 3rd strike dog and splits a lot but that is only 175 but if he don't split it gets gut c. so what do you do.

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Goes back to the old " good handler can take a mediocre dog and win ". They pitch when a dog strikes and most dogs that are tight are gonna get the tree 1st or 2nd,. hard to beat a handler.

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Its hard to beat atight mouth dog aslong as when he gets byself he has the meat!! Even in one hour hunts usually his coon is on the outside an it didnt run far!!! An i have been shut out cause the tight mouth dog struck an treed before anything eles opened!!!

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quote:
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Tite mouth dogs can be 1st strike dogs!
and can leave many dogs behind in the dust ,,,lol

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quote:
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Tite mouth dogs can be 1st strike dogs!


Not in this country.

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I absolutely hate mouthy dogs.

It seems to me there is at least 2 babblers on every cast, but in reality that probably isnt the case.

We have a tendancy to remember the 1 time we got beat by that me-too babbler but forget the times we got flat out beat by a coondog.

There are PLENTY of winning dogs that werent mouthy.

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quote:
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Not in this country.


What??? Just because a dog is tight on track doesn't mean it won't get first strike. I've seen plenty of dogs that would strike then go almost silent and fall treed. Short races because the coon didn't know it was getting dogged.

There's a big difference between a still mouth dog and a tight mouth dog.

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tight mouthed

A hound that leaves the lead strap like a rocket focusing only on getting a coon treed as fast as possible, alone or with company, without trashin, or staying in the ground, would be deadly in most terrains, whether it opened a lot or not. I agree that an average tight mouth dog wouldn't be worth a hoot in thick coons. With a great one it wouldn't matter in a 2hr. hunt of any registry.

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quote:
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What??? Just because a dog is tight on track doesn't mean it won't get first strike. I've seen plenty of dogs that would strike then go almost silent and fall treed. Short races because the coon didn't know it was getting dogged.

There's a big difference between a still mouth dog and a tight mouth dog.

you gave him the right answer before i got to ,,thanks chuck west

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