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Quote of The Decade

The Quote of the Decade
“The fact that we are here today to debate raising America's debt limit is a sign of leadership failure. It is a sign that the US Government cannot pay its own bills. It is a sign that we now depend on ongoing financial assistance from foreign countries to finance our Government's reckless fiscal policies. Increasing America's debt weakens us domestically and internationally. Leadership means that, ‘the buck stops here.’ Instead, Washington is shifting the burden of bad choices today onto the backs of our children and grandchildren. America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership. Americans deserve better.”
-- Senator Barack H. Obama, March 2006

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Yeah he and his staff threw away Bushs shovel and brought in an track hoe.

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national debt

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Aw Shucks fellows. He was just trying to get elected and what with reading that teleprompter ......

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A prime example of a politician saying one thing to get the weak minded to fall for it and do the opposite. Now we pay and pay and pay for years to come. If we last that long. Throw all the bumbs out and start over with someone that has our and the countrys best interest at heart. We have a start, it would be a wise choice to do what the hard working people want done for the sake of our grand kids and this United States of America.

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My 2 cents

Maybe if the government was run by people that have actually had to work for a living we would be better off. Ridding our country of manufacturing jobs was the worst decision ever made. I dont claim affiliation with any of these idiots, I just want someone to run the country that gives a hoot about the lower and middle class. JMO

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Re: My 2 cents

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Maybe if the government was run by people that have actually had to work for a living we would be better off. Ridding our country of manufacturing jobs was the worst decision ever made. I dont claim affiliation with any of these idiots, I just want someone to run the country that gives a hoot about the lower and middle class. JMO


Well I'm high class and I would like for them to give a hoot about me too instead of thinking I need to support everybody.

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I knew l.Lyle was big money. How bout buying me a COONDOG to hunt???

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quote:
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I knew l.Lyle was big money. How bout buying me a COONDOG to hunt???

He wasn't talking about money, he was talking about class.

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quote:
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He wasn't talking about money, he was talking about class.


whats the difference ?

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quote:
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whats the difference ?


Same as a coondog and a treeslick.

Edit : Same as a treeslick and a coondog.

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I had a couple of good friends stop by today, all three retired and they were concerned about getting there social security checks next month. I am about 30 years from retirement so I know it won't be there for me but they worked hard there entire lives paying into SS and now they have to worry if it will be there for them. The thing that urks me about the deal is while these fellas worked for what they've got and now they have to worry if it's gonna be there for them there are mile long lines of folks with food stamp cards in there hands that are able but un willing to work that will still be eating t-bones and filets and driveing Caddys on the backs of the hard working men and women of AMERICA. The system is broke in more ways then one!!

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The reason they have to worry about it is because of the BS being fed to them and they eat it. Who said older is always wiser especially when they vote asking "what's in it for me". Yes the system is broke. Long years ago I put in six hours at a Tech School and then 8 hours for a landscaper and take my check and buy baloney. I was standing in the checkout line behind a HOT SWEET THING when she pulled out her ----Card to pay for steak and canned oysters. Till then, we were making eyes. I guess I could have followed sweet thing home and learned early on how the system works and in some ways it would have been as educational as a real education. But when you are educated in a certain way you continue to think in that certain way. You can never think outside the box even when you have to or need to, even if you don't want to. They think alike and vote alike as trained by guess who? UNCLE SAM.

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I don't know that they voted " what's in it for me"
I don't fault them for expecting what they have worked30+ years for and then all the sudden it's not there The fault is that of the politicians that the welfare crowd has elected on the grounds of who is going to give them the most for nothing. I agree with you that we have some real winners in office right now that are sinking the ship but we have far more so called Americans that are sitting at home with there hand out sucking the life out of our country and the money out of our pockets.

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Interesting thing with this debt ceiling deal is that if the Republicans cave on this we will be a lot closer to a balanced budget again. Boehner and his Tea Party friends are doing a lot of posturing about "balanced budget amendments" but it seems the only way they want to balance it is by taking folks retirement money [SSI] and retirement healthcare [Medicare/Medicaid] away from them. So Boehner wants to balance the budget on the backs of the working poor, and Obama wants to balance it on the backs of the wealth class. Only problem is even if you are one of those who think it best to make the poor balance the budget, they can't. They don't have enough money. How much more can you get out of someone that makes only 40,000 a year? The math does not add up.

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Lets all get new trucks, file bankruptcy. Thats what they are teaching.

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Lets all get new trucks, file bankruptcy. Thats what they are teaching.
Sounds good to me!!! I might as well live like the rest of the folk around here. Bunch of lazy freaking idiots is what the problem is and I dont care who wants to cry about it. They are work out there. I see help wanted signs around here a lot. Maybe its not the best job but it beats the hell out of no money at all. Cut it all out. Welfare and unemployment.. You wanna see the jobless rate go down. You cut that freebe crap out and it will. Plus obama is a idiot and EVERY SINGLE PERSON THAT VOTED FOR HIM. IDIOTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Interesting thing with this debt ceiling deal is that if the Republicans cave on this we will be a lot closer to a balanced budget again. Boehner and his Tea Party friends are doing a lot of posturing about "balanced budget amendments" but it seems the only way they want to balance it is by taking folks retirement money [SSI] and retirement healthcare [Medicare/Medicaid] away from them. So Boehner wants to balance the budget on the backs of the working poor, and Obama wants to balance it on the backs of the wealth class. Only problem is even if you are one of those who think it best to make the poor balance the budget, they can't. They don't have enough money. How much more can you get out of someone that makes only 40,000 a year? The math does not add up.
I read a report in "Forbes" magazine that said the top 400 money makers in the USA made equal to 60% of the lowest money makers in the USA ,thats roughly 180 million people ,,,,yes sir check it yourself if you doubt me ,,and yep some one needs to do the math ,,ty chuck west

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Obama wants to balance it on the backs of the wealth class. .


I'M SO SICK OF THIS "TAKE FROM THE RICH AND GIVE TO THE POOR" ATTITUDE. HOW DO YOU THINK THESE PEOPLE GOT RICH? MOST OF THEM WORKED THEIR WAY INTO WEALTH OR TOOK A CHANCE BY STARTING A BUSINESS. SOME MAY HAVE INHERITED WEALTH BUT SOMEBODY DOWN THE LINE WORKED FOR IT OR RISKED WHAT THEY HAD WORKED FOR TO BECOME WEALTHY.

HOW MANY OF US WOULD GO TO WORK KNOWING THAT NEARLY HALF OF YOUR PAY WILL GO TO TAXES TO HELP OTHERS WHO ARE UNWILLING TO WORK AND ABUSE THE SYSTEM? THATS WHAT WE ARE ASKING THE WEALTHY TO DO.

NOW SOCIAL SECURITY, MILITARY PAY, ETC ARE IN JEPARODY. NOT ONE WORD ABOUT CUTTING WELFARE, FOOD STAMPS, UNEMPLOYMENT, HUD, FORIEGN AID, ETC. THAT'S BULL#$%^.

HERE'S A WAY TO DECREASE THESE GOVERNMENT HANDOUTS. YOU APPLY FOR ASSISTENCE, YOU TAKE A MANDOTORY DRUG TEST. YOU FAIL, SORRY, NO HELP FOR YOU. YOU GET LAID OFF FROM YOUR JOB AND WANT UNEMPLOYMENT, WELFARE, FOOD STAMPS ETC YOU ARE REQUIRED TO WORK FOR YOUR LOCAL GOVERNMENT (DOING WHATEVER THERES NOT ENOUGH FUNDING TO SUPPORT) FOR 4 HRS ADAY MON-FRI. THE REST OF THE DAY YOU CAN LOOK FOR A JOB. YOU GET FIRED FROM YOUR JOB FOR STEALING, NOT SHOWING UP, PERSONAL NEGLIGENCE ETC, NO UNEMPLOYMENT FOR YOU.. UNEMPLOYMENT WILL LAST 3MONTHS PERIOD, NO EXCEPTIONS. YOU GET CAUGHT CHEATING THESE GOVERNMENT PROGRAMS, NO GOV. ASSISTENCE FOR YOU THE REST OF YOUR LIFE.

I KNOW A WOMAN WHO WAS FIRED FROM THREE JOBS: 2 FOR STEALING AND ONE FOR DRINKING ON THE JOB. RECIEVED UNEMPLOYMENT. THATS BAD RIGHT? STORY NOT FINISHED. WHILE DRAWING UNEMPLOYMENT GETS 4TH JOB AND CONTINUES TO DRAW UNEMPLOYMENT. UNEMPLOYMENT AGENCY FINDS OUT AND CALLS HER AT CURRENT JOB TELLS HER TO COME IN BECAUSE SHE MAYBE ABLE TO INCREASE AMOUNT OF FUNDS SHE IS RECEIVING. OF COURSE SHE GOES (CHANCE FOR MORE MONEY) THEY CONFRONT HER ABOUT WORKING AND DRAWING UNEMPLOYMENT. SHE'S TOLD SHE OWES UNEMPLOYMENT AGENCY $2315 FOR PAYMENTS SHE DIDN'T DESERVE WHILE WORKING AND NO MORE ASSISTENCE. NEXT WEEK SHE GETS FIRED FOR STEALING FROM HER EMPLOYER ONCE AGAIN. YOU GUESSED IT---FILES AND RECIEVES UNEMPLOYMENT. AND WE ARE SUPPOSED TO WORK HARD AND PAY TAXES TO SUPPORT PEOPLE LIKE THIS???

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Got to figure something out besides keep on borrowing.......... P.L. 107-199
June 28th, 2002
New Limit: $6.4 trillion
Increase in Limit: $450 billion

P.L. 108-24
May 27th, 2003
New Limit: $7.384 trillion
Increase in Limit: $984 billion

P.L. 108-415
November 19th, 2004
New Limit: $8.184 trillion
Increase in Limit: $800 billion

P.L. 109-182
March 20th, 2006
New Limit: $8.965 trillion
Increase in Limit: $781 billion

P.L. 110-91
September 29th, 2007
New Limit: $9.815 trillion
Increase in Limit: $850 billion

P.L. 110-289
July 30th, 2008
New Limit: $10.615 trillion
Increase in Limit: $800 billion

P.L. 110-343
October 3rd, 2008
New Limit: $11.315 trillion
Increase in Limit: $700 billion

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all those increases came under Bush Jr ,,but if everyone would look back ,,there has been 75 increases since 1960 ,18 of them under Reagan ,,ok 5 under Bush Sr ,,4 under Clinton,,then what you showed on your post ,its not all about the ceiling its about getting all our ducks in a row ,,all this blame cant be put on Obama ,,ty chuck west

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GA DAWG and StaggCreek,
I guess you guys have pretty different views on lazy and unemployed. I realize that in the south you have an epidemic of laziness and unemployment and poverty. You must see so much of it that you become callous to it. Here in MN [we have been sort of known as a welfare state] we use much less govt aid than you do in your state. We must just use it more wisely, because the poor do come here looking for handouts, but we give them a handout and a work opportunity, and most people with any dignity [when the handout runs out] take the work opportunity.
Do people that live in areas of high poverty and high unemployment not have work opportunities? or do they not dignity?

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They are just lazy bums for the most part. Anyhow. Unemployment maybe shouldn't be cut all out. Maybe let it pay 1 month while you look for a job. I despise hearing people say. No way Id work for that little. Well what the crap? Better than no work. As for welfare. I live out in the country. I know folks in food stamps and stuff . Some kin to me. They need a adz whipping and get a job. Don't think for a min I want tell em that. They can get work but why should they? They can live for almost free and bum around all day. I don't make tons of money. Maybe the gov should pay for my phone,food,rent and utilizes while I lay on my tail and get fat. This crap is wasteful. Could save us billions upon billions.

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Sounds good to me!!! I might as well live like the rest of the folk around here. Bunch of lazy freaking idiots is what the problem is and I dont care who wants to cry about it. They are work out there. I see help wanted signs around here a lot. Maybe its not the best job but it beats the hell out of no money at all. Cut it all out. Welfare and unemployment.. You wanna see the jobless rate go down. You cut that freebe crap out and it will. Plus obama is a idiot and EVERY SINGLE PERSON THAT VOTED FOR HIM. IDIOTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Amen brother, lets cut the federal aid that states get to give these lazy folks a free ride. A man who aint hungry enough aint going to work. Lets make them hungrey.

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career politiciancs thats americas problem
they should have to get out and find a job just like us common folks when thier term is up

my all time favorite quit givin other countries our freakin money we americans need it more

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