Registered: Jul 2006
Location: St. Olaf, Iowa
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Should be illegal!!!...had a dog spend 5 hours in a pile of foundation, trees, dirt and about everything else you could think of in it last night..when i finally found where she was it took me over and hour to get her dug out..I don't know if anyone else that doesn't live in corn country has this problem or not but it has made hunting a lot more work than I would like!!!!

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Yep i know what ya mean,we neve hardly used to end up in the ground until the farmers started pushin the edges of the woods im to get those extra rows of corn and all the nice walkin on the edges is now chisel plowed. They just dont care about our feelings at all. LOL.

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i know to what you mean push piles of trees anything out there in a pile makes a mess, im hunting a pup now i call her out or off of a hole when she gets in 1 , if it isnt a tree im makin her leave,

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Guess you better get your own land to hunt then.lol

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that seems to b the rule of thumb,but then they(farmers) don't do much for most of the year so they could use some of that free government money and clean their messes up,after all we r the ones payin for it.

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Guess you better get your own land to hunt then.lol

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that seems to b the rule of thumb,but then they(farmers) don't do much for most of the year so they could use some of that free government money and clean their messes up,after all we r the ones payin for it.

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Not to smart bitch!'ng abouth the farmers and what the do with there land should be glade they let ya hunt and dont have outfiters in there insted brack the dog from treeing in the ground and ya wont have to deal with it jmo

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being a farmer myself i will do what i want too and if someone complained about my place that would be the last time they would ever hunt on my ground i don't post my land have caught other guys coonhunting they say let me catch my dogs i tell them go ahead and hunt i just want them to know i know what there up too.if you want to complain buy your own land pay all the taxes we pay and then lets talk!!!!!!!

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just saying i dont let my dogs tree in the ground period. i am thankful for the farmers that let me hunt, if i see trash in the woods i pick it up an cary it back to my truck

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Not to smart bitch!'ng abouth the farmers and what the do with there land should be glade they let ya hunt and dont have outfiters in there insted brack the dog from treeing in the ground and ya wont have to deal with it jmo

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look up farm subsidy database. looks like well fare to me

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Just remember, we dont eat plastic. It takes the farmers and that extra row of corn to feed us. jmo

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YOU GUYS NEED TO GET A CLUE. BITCHING ABOUT A FARMER CLEANING UP AROUND HIS FARM AND YOU PROBABLY CAN'T KEEP THE YARD MOWED AT YOUR HOUSE. WITHOUT FARMERS YOU WILL HAVE NO FOOD, CLOTHES, AND PROBABLY NO LAND TO HUNT.

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i can see both sides.. my fiance's dad loves his bulldozer and uses it alot. makes life hell for me when training pups. im hoping he lets me burn them this spring might ask the farm if you guys can do the same!!!

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No farmers, no den trees, no brush piles =no coons

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Making their way.......hard to listen to complaining about an honest way to make a living. I suppose you could look at the piles as a good spot to setup for hunting coyotes instead. Not much for big timber down in central Iowa I guess so the coon make dens in the piles. Work with it is about your best option, farmers gotta take care of bidness as best as they can.

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I know what yall are talkin about. Teo of my favorite spots to hunt has them. All you guys talking about teaching them not to stay in holes must not understand what these piles are! So much more then just a hole!!!

My uncle owns the two pieces of property I'm talking about and I will be talking to him about burning them down this winter!

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Registered: Dec 2008
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with a bulldozer who coon hunts, we push the piles up and then burn them. Have left a couple of tree piles out there. We have had the dogs go into them. It sucks but it happens. Not even gonna argue about the government payment deal. Most people that think it is welfare or free money don't know anything about farming.

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I can see both sides of it. I hate them too. I know dogs that typically don't stay at a hole that will stay in a grub pile. Some of these things can be massive, large enough to bury a school bus. Most them get burned down within a year but many of them don't, making a nasty place to try to retrieve a dog from.

My father-in-law is a farmer with a bulldozer too. He runs over 1200 acres and there isn't a spot worth turning a hound loose. No trees!

Common practice around here by a couple large landowners. I know of a couple properties that have been completely destroyed for hunting to clear trees, fence rows, water ways & etc to get a few more rows of corn in.

I wish that for every tillable acre they gained by clearing that stuff out that they'd leave an acre of non-tillable or poor tillable ground for wildlife and erosion control.

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Location: St. Olaf, Iowa
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well let me state here before some of you go off the wall on me like you have..My family farms and i do have my own ground to hunt on..I make a living from farmers while I work at an ag. business and run the feed mill and also work part time on the weekends on a hog farm so I'm not on any kind of anti farming kick or anything like that...my statement about farmers with bulldozers should be illegal was clearly not meant to be serious because that would just be ridiculous to make a law like that in America.Yes I realize trees need to be cleared for farm ground, thats the way it works these days, its not that hard to clean up either, I am more saying this as some farmers like to get carried away with their toys when they have nothing going on...And yes I will inform some of them that want me to kill all the coon on their property because all the crop damage they sustain through the year that cleaning up all their dozer piles would cut down on the coon population around their crops and would also make it easier for me to harvest the coon out of there..So I can guarantee that me telling them about my hardships of getting my dog out of the pile would not p### them off and they would not tell me I could never hunt on their property again and they will do whatever they want with their land.I would also be just as happy if my dog was broke from going into them and would come out when i called.but she is almost 11 years old now so she does what she wants and thats it.I am 21, I have had her since she was 1 so I didn't really have much training experience at that time..But for all of you that take this offensive go ahead clear all the trees you want and pile them up, hate me all you want.I won't hate you. i have thick skin and can handle get yelled at on the computer

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my reply wasn't meant to be hateful or offensive towards you or anyone. I should rephrase my first post. My dad does the bulldozer work, and I don't really like the brush piles either. Thats why I burn them .

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I'm glad to see farming is doing so well up that way. Most around here are still cutting back and laying fallow.

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We don't own the land, we borrow it from our children. What we do carries on down the line. Trees can be bulldozed in the winter and corn growin' the next summer. Try growing a stand of hardwoods. It takes a lifetime. Once it's dozed or developed chances are it's gone for good. jmo.

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We don't own the land, we borrow it from our children. What we do carries on down the line. Trees can be bulldozed in the winter and corn growin' the next summer. Try growing a stand of hardwoods. It takes a lifetime. Once it's dozed or developed chances are it's gone for good. jmo.

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