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Ray&Luie
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Track drifting

These dont have to be walkers but what are the best yawl have seen in the hunts @ taking Cold tracks and drifting them in a to a Good Hot Track, any good Blue Dogs that Drift ?

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Oh yes! Hammer and Jet dogs do it.

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Drifting

Iv never seen a Blue dog that could drift a track, not saying there arent any i just have never hunted with that kind of Blue Dog..

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Come on up and il show you a blue dog that can drift on out with a bad track, and let ya watch it on the garmin. She gets quiet when she does it and when she opens again shell be rollin. Treeslammin hillbilly x lady.

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Drifting

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Come on up and il show you a blue dog that can drift on out with a bad track, and let ya watch it on the garmin. She gets quiet when she does it and when she opens again shell be rollin. Treeslammin hillbilly x lady.



Sounds Good, I love it when a Hound uses his head with his nose, Iv owned a couple like that and hunted with some Good Walkers that, knew how to find the Hot end

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Re: Drifting

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Sounds Good, I love it when a Hound uses his head with his nose, Iv owned a couple like that and hunted with some Good Walkers that, knew how to find the Hot end
Ummm.. I thought that was unheard of in Walcurs!

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Re: Re: Drifting

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Ummm.. I thought that was unheard of in Walcurs!


Hey dont knock what you cant Beat lol

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Oh yes! Hammer and Jet dogs do it.

second that

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There is one in North East Oklahoma that can fastest dog iv ever seen hot or cold track

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i own both walkers and blueticks and i say it's all in how you define drifting a track to me is running head up tracking is head down i like both breeds my best walker dog gets coon will flat out get it my best bluetick gets coon don't leave the county to do it. best thing is they get coons

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Re: Track drifting

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These dont have to be walkers but what are the best yawl have seen in the hunts @ taking Cold tracks and drifting them in a to a Good Hot Track, any good Blue Dogs that Drift ?


Come on out west and I'll show you some Walcurs that can drift you a track and put a bobcat up a tree at the end of it

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I've hunted with Gauge and seems like he can really handle any track, makes the hard ones look easy. I don't know much about Blue dogs but he sure stuck out in my mind when I seen this thread.

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My buddy has a smoky river bred bluetick that can drift a track like crazy! Kinda sucks when you're trying to hunt these nw ohio patchwoods, but would be awesome in some bigger country

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Re: Re: Track drifting

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Come on out west and I'll show you some Walcurs that can drift you a track and put a bobcat up a tree at the end of it


I bet u could Mel, id love to come follow those tuff cat Dogs

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Rosewood english that Jack Smith use to raise. Charlie Parsley's Johnny Reb dog was the best I ever saw. I believe he was out of Dark Mt. Snap.

Most of the Rosewood bred dogs ended up out west and Central America as big game hounds.

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Rose Wood

any of that Breading still around ?

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The question isn't if they can. The question should be if they do. It is a style not an ability. If it is hot enough to smell with there head up it is posible for them to do it. Some just don't while others do.
My Son pup will work a track head down if he needs to but will raise his head and go with it when he can. My walker out of Extreem X will drift but gets hung up in scent pools of any size still. She isn't near as fast about putting her head down when she needs to to figure out a problem but she is about 5 months younger than my blue pup.

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It's an inborn trait.

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Inborn maybe, i dont know. I think it has alot more to do with brains (coon sence) than it does with nose power. Lots of nights in the woods and a dog with desre learns what works for them. Most people would say the blue female i hunt is hot nosed because she doesnt fool with a cold track ever, and yet i have seen her put her head up into the air and drift in a good ways and get treed on a layup. She just knows how to get it done and what works for her.

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Drifting

My lucy dog out of Some of the High style Breeding was as good as iv seen, but she wouldent fool with a reall cold track to start with, she would pull up and get ahead of a track beater and have the coon befor they knew what hit them

There was another hound i didnt own out of Coon Stopper and Shark fin, and Hickory Nutt Harry that could sure get it done in his day

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I agree with John, A lot of it is brains, I've had several blueticks
through the years that drifted tracks from different lines. Years
ago we had a mild winter and I hunted through most of it. I
would follow my blue females tracks in the snow to the tree and would only see the coons tracks once in a while. Sometimes you
wouldn't see them at all as she would be down wind of the track
all the way to the tree. Hunted with a guy with a couple Black dogs sometimes and he couldn't figure out why his male was so much faster than his female till one night a coon they were
running came out of the cornfield right at our feet, ran down the lane away from us and then into the woods. My female and his
male both came out of the cornfield down wind from us and hit the edge of the woods, instantly turned and ran by us, hit where the coon turned and went in the woods and treed. His female
came out a couple minutes later right on the coons track. I said that's the difference between them, the females running right on
the coons track and the males "cheating". I've also seen quite a few
Walkers "bootick" through the years and they could stand on
their heads just as good or better than any bluetick!! I also think
some of the best track drifting dogs have a lot more nose than
than what it looks like.

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quote:
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ago we had a mild winter and I hunted through most of it. I
would follow my blue females tracks in the snow to the tree and would only see the coons tracks once in a while.



Thats right, You learn a lot hunting in snow, I dont care who you are of how much you think you know, you will learn more about how your dog tracks in snow than you will in a lifetime of listening, basicly guessing what a dog is doing.

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quote:
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It's an inborn trait.


The inborn trait is to run with it's head up. It is't born knowing how to drift. If it naturaly runs with it's head up it has to learn to drift to find any thing. Well drift or air scent.A dog can't track with its head up.
Other than that it would have to be learned by a dog that naturaly runs with it's head down from experances of catching a hot trail in the air while it's head is up and learning to work it.
Personaly one that knows how to do both would be my choise. A natural track dog that has learned to trail and air scent.

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quote:
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The inborn trait is to run with it's head up. It is't born knowing how to drift. If it naturaly runs with it's head up it has to learn to drift to find any thing. Well drift or air scent.A dog can't track with its head up.
Other than that it would have to be learned by a dog that naturaly runs with it's head down from experances of catching a hot trail in the air while it's head is up and learning to work it.
Personaly one that knows how to do both would be my choise. A natural track dog that has learned to trail and air scent.




Good Post
taking the track as it come is the best type to have if its cold , work it till it gets hot or, Treed. If it gets hot pick ur head up and run to catch

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