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This blood trailing thing kinda has me interested. Just curious if any of you have owned / trained a blood trailer or even seen one work? I don't want to get in the business of looking for every gut shot deer in the county but it would be nice to have to help family and friends.

I think the "go to" dog for that purpose is the standard dachsund. I'm curious as to how the bird dog breeds would do and whether a four year old dog would be too old to start?

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They are pretty easy to train and would depend on how birdie the dog is as to how easy it is to train for a blood trail.

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I HAVE A CHOC LAB AND MY COUSIN HAS ONE THAT WILL FIND DEER. THEY ARE NOT HUNTING DOGS JUST PETS. WE LET THEM FIND EVERY DEER EVEN IF WE KNOW WHERE THEY FELL.

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best blood trail dog i ever saw was a lab

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They are used every day of season down here. They are as common as coonhounds are up there.

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You can make it as hard or as easy as you want. Take a piece of dear meat and drag it like a coon drag. Then let the dog eat it when it finds it or you can put a stand bark or refind in the dog. A refind is what I use to use the most on cadaver dogs but a dear goes a long wase some times. I would just let it eat till I found it useing the garmin. Fastest easiest way to train. You can have one 4 years old doing it in a few days.
You have a little trouble with pointers wanting to stop and point but the lab. is good. I like beagles myself. Getting a dog started eating red meat is as hard as any other part.My number is580-628-0507 if I can help.

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Todd there is a guy I know that gets dogs that look houndy with other breeds mixed in from the pound. He has a cow bell on a hook to put on there collar so he can keep up with them. He told me he has never bought a blood trailer just the pound muts which ends up being his house pet. some work some don't but the good thing about it is you cull and start over without much money invested.

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Labs are great and easy to train but almost any dog can and will train easily. Take blood, any type of red blood, and lay a trail with a hotdog (or any other treat) at the of the trail. Start with the drops close and when the dog will follow that space the blood more. It is best to keep the dog on a lease while tracking. It is also lawful in most places to track a wounded deer with the dog on a lease where it may not be lawful to release the dog to run; ie, during our bow or muzzle loader season you can not run deer with dogs here where I live.

Like Clay said, they are pretty common down here. You get some deer dogs that will run to catch when they smell blood while others will quit when they smell blood.

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The L.E. here told me it wasn't against the law here in Okla. to run a blood trail dog on game as long as you don't have a gun when you do it. I would check with the game warden in your state though.
If you want a refind in it just allways give it a command like FIND when it starts. After it finds it call it back to you and have it jump up on you or sit, speak what ever you want. Then send it back to the deer with the find command again. Before long it will go back and forth till it leads you to were the deer is. Once it gets you there you allways give it it's reward.

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I have a pet with a lot of lab in her, she will do it if the terrain isn't too rough ( never trained ). Lot of folks use begals around me for finding shot deer.

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I had an old Hi Tan mutt that was part redbone.

He was a yard dog but one day my dad lost a deer. We had a little blood so I took him on a leash to where the deer was shot.

That dog just did it natural. I hissed him on the track where the blood was and I knew it was the right deer. At first I put his nose to the ground there where the tracks/blood was and just sicked him on it. He started trackin and pullin me and I just let him pull and lead me.

He found that one and every other one we ever put him on after that.

It got to where people we didn't know were coming to the house to get me or my brother to take the dog and get their deer.

It wasn't hard to train him, he just wanted to please and all it took was hissin him on a track that he knew we wanted him to run.

I still to this day don't know if it was actually blood or he had sense enough to always track the deer we put him on by scent but he always found his deer. At times finding the right deer when the one that shot it kept sayin "but it didn't go that way" only to find out later that yes it did go that way too they just didn't remember correctly.

It wasn't for the out of shape though. You had to keep him on the leash cause it's illegal to run deer with dogs in Tennessee so he had to stay on the leash. He was about 100 pounds and could flat pull, but you always knew you were goin the right direction, and he didn't let you waste time LOL.

I miss that old dog.

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Years ago, I used a Beagle to blood trail a deer that dropped dead almost 2 miles from my tree. Since that time I learned the use of a dog to blood trail deer is illegal in my state.

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todd i had a min. dachsund that i used she was very good at it to never for anyone else just family only had one she couldnt find to bad she is no longer around i started her young she was 5 months old during our rifle season and i wasd gutting a deer at the farm and she showed an interest the next day i shot one and he ran about 100 yards i seen him go down but i went home and got the wienier dog and she licked up alot of the blood but she found it over the next couple of years she found a few more that would have not been found had it been not for her

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I have a friend that has a doxie that has been used for about three years. I believe he has recovered close to 30 deer and 10 black bear. In Michigan the dog has to be on a leash. I know "Moose" found a buck last year that was shot in the back leg. The trail was about 6 hours old when Moose was put on it and he crossed a river three times. The good ones aren't really tracking blood, they are actually following the animals scent.

I have a young fiest, we laid a blood trail for him and he found the end of the trail the first time. I am waiting for the chance to start him on a real trail.

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the guy that works at the taxidermy shop in merril has a weimeraner to trail deer, I guess it's a real good one too

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Todd , you shoot them ole things right and you don't have to do much trailing !!! lol

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Get a good bred JAG..

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I'm definitely going to start messing with it. I agree that the best practice would be letting the dog track deer that you know are down. I can't believe it would take much to get one started. Hopefully it doesn't create an interest to track deer that aren't hit.

When blood drops are spaced out a good distance those dogs have to be trailing tracks. It's pretty impressive though and if it results in recovering a couple nice bucks a year for family (I never make a bad hit Donnie) then it would be worth doing.

I think I'll start out with my wife's dog though so I don't mess mine up. lol

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I FORGOT TO MENTION MY FEMALE LAB WILL FIND SHED ANTLERS. AND SHE STARTED THIS OWN HER OWN.

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quote:

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the walker mix in my pics will find a down deer, so will his sister. the man that owns his sister has been going out last 2 seasons to help find deer for others. now, dont ask me what he is mixed with,lol, the father is a mystery dog. sorry. my aunt has some of the best dachshunds in ohio, if you are interested.
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My buddy's border collie will track and find deer. She has never been trained for it, he dont even hunt. His inlaws use the dog or the neighbor comes over and says " can I use belle ? "

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TODD WE HAVE USED BEAGLES FOR YEARS TO FIND DOWN DEER DOWN HERE SO JUST GET YOUR BEAGLES OUT AND LET THEM WORK

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One thing I'm wondering about is if you start encouraging them to blood trail, which we all realize is not only blood but the scent of the individual deer also, if that will make them be more apt to trail deer when you don't want them to? Right now my dog is totally indifferent to deer and won't even chase them out of the yard.

Don't need my prized bird dog getting side tracked from his day job of pointing birds!

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I wouldn't use a dog that I hunted on other game for it.

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