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branchvillekell
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pup training help

how young is too young to start workin a pup on a coon in a cage? my pup is 4 1/2 months and showin alot of pup.lol. how long should these sessions last etc. thanks for any replies. or just what should i be doin at his age besides obedience.

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i already have a wick book but some things are contreversial i think. just want some veteran advice, please

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Jonathan Crump
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Work on obedience first (everyday) and put a caged coon out in yard ( 1-2 time a week) somewhere and let him find it. Encourage him to bark at it but a pups attention span is often short so dont be dissapointed if he only shows intrest for a few minutes. Also remember that a pup will come around on there time and not ours and every pup has differant timing. Good Luck

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branchvillekell
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he can walk on leash or walk me,lol, sit,stay knows his name, walks in woods with nose to ground constantly and then sometimes gets deaf. lol. he will come eventually, i am wondering if i am puttin too much stress on come here now when he is in the woods. i try to let him be the kid he is for the most part until it is time for training. only 15 min. at a time. he gets mad if any longer. he loves his leash, he will bite it and i dont even have to connect it and we heel. bad habit?

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Jonathan Crump
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If he is pulling on the lead take a small small branch from a tree and pop him on the head but not to hard and tell him EASY . When you start the training session it is best to let him burn off a little energy first and the heel part I like to be able to call mine and when they come up they automaticly sit. Praise him when he comes to you but if you have to go get him scold him and spank a little but not to ruff as he is still a pup.The number one thing to remember is to be consistant on the comands that you use as to not confuse him or yourself.

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If he is pulling on the lead take a small small branch from a tree and pop him on the head but not to hard and tell him EASY . When you start the training session it is best to let him burn off a little energy first and the heel part I like to be able to call mine and when they come up they automaticly sit. Praise him when he comes to you but if you have to go get him scold him and spank a little but not to ruff as he is still a pup.The number one thing to remember is to be consistant on the comands that you use as to not confuse him or yourself.

thank you for your advice, he is full of himself. surely. a wild man sometimes. he chases my ducks through the pond and swims after them. alot . thought i had to rescue him once loves the water. good and bad situation i think. i dont think that i should let him chase the ducks anymore. he wont listen when i yell at him for that so i think that is when i should collect him and put him on the leash. what do you think

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You can find quite a lot of pup training threads with great advise if you search through this site. As much as you care to read I'm sure.

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You can find quite a lot of pup training threads with great advise if you search through this site. As much as you care to read I'm sure.


thank you, i have read alot and i really like what you have to say. i will listen and learn. thank you again

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If you want my opinion I would wait to show him a coon till I was 100% ready to hunt him for the next couple months. I would show him one coon, see if he can run and tree it, then hunt him 10 times and see what happens.

4.5 months old is too young for me to do it, but its really up to you. I would rather have them be hunting age before I mess with them. For me thats around 8-10 months old depending on how they are acting. To show a coon at 5 months then have to wait another 3 months to hunt him makes me think he might forget little about what you showed him. If you start showing them coons at this age you tend to keep doing it and by the time they are ready to hunt you have showed them too many in my opinion.

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If you want my opinion I would wait to show him a coon till I was 100% ready to hunt him for the next couple months. I would show him one coon, see if he can run and tree it, then hunt him 10 times and see what happens.

4.5 months old is too young for me to do it, but its really up to you. I would rather have them be hunting age before I mess with them. For me thats around 8-10 months old depending on how they are acting. To show a coon at 5 months then have to wait another 3 months to hunt him makes me think he might forget little about what you showed him. If you start showing them coons at this age you tend to keep doing it and by the time they are ready to hunt you have showed them too many in my opinion.


thank you for your reply, i am just anxious, really excited.lol.

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my dog was running and treeing with older dogs by 6 months old he first saw a coon when he was 3 months old

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quote:
Originally posted by Briar
If you want my opinion I would wait to show him a coon till I was 100% ready to hunt him for the next couple months. I would show him one coon, see if he can run and tree it, then hunt him 10 times and see what happens.

4.5 months old is too young for me to do it, but its really up to you. I would rather have them be hunting age before I mess with them. For me thats around 8-10 months old depending on how they are acting. To show a coon at 5 months then have to wait another 3 months to hunt him makes me think he might forget little about what you showed him. If you start showing them coons at this age you tend to keep doing it and by the time they are ready to hunt you have showed them too many in my opinion.



This is a great post. A lot of guys will get on here and tell you about their 4,5, or 6 month old treeing coons, etc. And that is very exciting, but you can burn out a pup if you push them on coons too hard too young. I think it's important to teach obedience, like has already been said. I also like to get my pups used to being in the woods and having a good time, which it sounds like you're already doing. I got a 4 1/2 month old pup as well and haven't showed him a coon yet. I'm anxious too, but just remember good things come to those who wait.

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Originally posted by PlottChaser
This is a great post. A lot of guys will get on here and tell you about their 4,5, or 6 month old treeing coons, etc. And that is very exciting, but you can burn out a pup if you push them on coons too hard too young. I think it's important to teach obedience, like has already been said. I also like to get my pups used to being in the woods and having a good time, which it sounds like you're already doing. I got a 4 1/2 month old pup as well and haven't showed him a coon yet. I'm anxious too, but just remember good things come to those who wait.


thank you, is all too be said, gosh, i cant wait

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Work on obedience first (everyday) and put a caged coon out in yard ( 1-2 time a week) somewhere and let him find it. Encourage him to bark at it but a pups attention span is often short so dont be dissapointed if he only shows intrest for a few minutes. Also remember that a pup will come around on there time and not ours and every pup has differant timing. Good Luck


(1-2 a month) sorry I didnt proof read And I dont expect a pup to tree a coon. I do show them one at a young age ( 4-5 month) to see the response from them. I dont really expect much from them as far as hunting till 18 months. First dog I trained was 2 yrs old and wearing me thin before he started tracking and treeing on his own.

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