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Ron Ashbaugh
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I need advice

I have a little dog here that I started in March of 09 as an 9 month old. She started running and treeing and was hunted 95% of the time alone. She progressed through the summer, we had a really good fall and was turning into the nicest do I have personally had. After the snow came off she started back right where she left off and did well for a month and came into heat. After that she did well for another week and has for a month the bottom has just dropped out. She will just not get hooked alone, with other dogs, anything. I mean she has gotten treed a couple times and had coons but nowhere near what she was doing.

I am starting to lost patience. I can only sit so long and listed to a dog mess around barking in the woods. Any advice? She just came off that lay off from being in heat. She will turn 2 in about a month. Thanks anyone, I need a glimmer of hope here.

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From your signature i suspect you may be one of the modern misguided hunters who dont think they need coon shot out to them. I suppose some dont need them but young dogs especially need the meat when they do it right.
This is just my opinion and some will dissagree.

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try laying her up again for a week or two and see how she comes off that layup

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Ron Ashbaugh
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I don't disagree John, but I would say she has had 50 out to her in her life. I know that during kill season we shot 36 and I am near certain she has had another 15 along the way.

Not enough? I am open to advice here folks.

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Just a guess but I would say she has a health problem and not enough energy to want to. It might allso be that you burnt her out hunting her to much to fast. Comeing out of winter, young, out of shape, blood loss from heat, just a combination of things.
I would check her health. If that is good only hunt her enough to make her want more. No matter how little that is. Then build on that. Like I said it is just a guess.

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Most young dogs hit a flat spell here or there or have trouble due to certain other conditions in the way coons are moving, weather, scenting conditions, and so on.

It takes alot of patience to bring young dogs along...

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I had the same problem with a dog before. She would just run a track and locate, but would never tree. So, what I did was keep close to her and when she located hurry up and get to her and then if I found the coon in the tree I would shoot it out. Eventually, she started staying hooked and you could turn her loose and she would go tree a coon everytime. P.S. This dog came off of a really good kill season and had many coons shot out for her before this happened.

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could be her hormones, some act crazy before there heat, some after. could be her age. lay her up for a couple weeks....

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quote:
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Most young dogs hit a flat spell here or there or have trouble due to certain other conditions in the way coons are moving, weather, scenting conditions, and so on.

It takes alot of patience to bring young dogs along...



+1....At least thats the story I go with when its my dog.

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Terribles twos.
Our Kate pup is 20 months old and going through the exact same thing. Every pup I have ever worked with went through it at around 2 or a little sooner if they were early starters. I don't have any answers but when I see her standing on her head in the same spot I start a 2 minute clock and if she isn't out of there or treed in 2, I push her out of there. If she can't locate a tree in 2 minutes she needs her ass warmed up. I'm no fan of laying up pups. It might work but I'll never know because I don't have whatever it takes to put one up for much longer than a few days.

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Let someone take her and Hunt her for a month .. Change her suroundings .. Sometime this will shake it out of them..

I have seen this work with alot of different Critters ..

I have never been able to Finish a Horse out of My own !! I can get them to a almost finshed stage then Hit a Brick wall..

I meet a Gal that would help me out .. I had a POA Pony that I had raised and Trained for my Daughter and it was a great Pony, She Could do almost anything with it .. But it was missing some of the edge it needed for Racing .. With in a few days after the pony left and was being worked at this Gals farm she called and said He's finished !! And he was this Pony could do a 5' sliding stop followed by a spinning 180.. Something we just could'nt get him to do..

I have swaped pup/hounds with Cindy Thompson and seen the Same thing but it takes longer with Hounds to come around .. Just more Brains then Horses I gess ..

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Have her checked for elichria.

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Thanks for all the help guys and gals, she came out of the slump last week and hasn't looked back. It was a month almost to the day......

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