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its getting rediculus with some of the dogfood posts one guy writes sexton dog food gives his hounds worms another says you and i eat corn so how is it not good to feed dogfood whose ingredients base the food on corn and grains.
when you try to explain proper feed for dogs they claim i'm wrong.
after breeding several types of dogs for over 50 years i thing i have learned something about proper nutrition, i remember way back when dog food had to have meat added as all that was available was grain based food and the dogs couldn't maintain on what was fed to them,
there is a huge differance between meat protein and protein from grains as far as stamina,health and well being of the animal.
i'm tired of trying to educate people on this subject. if they tried it they would find out its cheaper to feed a good meat based dog food where you feed a lot less and the dogs assimilate what they eat. another fact is 21 percent protein is no more than maintenance level a dog can't be worked hard and be expected to perform on poor dog food

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Wayne, your right but the only people who will learn are the ones who want to learn. I have found most don't.

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Things is if they would just do a search it has been covered every which way possible!!

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+ most dont understand because they are still learning themselves. so of course you must be stupid to these people ...how could you know...when they dont?

typical in this country nowadays , no respect for others, and everyones full of themselves.

Why take ideas to think about when it doesn't immediatley agree with what you already think.

truly idiotic. so they continue to learn the long n hard way...

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you are rite with this post meat must be in the feed befor i buy it

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wow ? where did that come from over dog food lol holy cow respect and life lessons over dog food i just tryin to do for me and mine since we got this here depression goin on sorry i cant feed the ones that are recomended only what i can afford you all have a nice day

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Hey Bobby.....I used to feed nothing but Sextons. Then I tried a bag of Diamond Extreme Athlete.
It is $33 for 40lb. but when you compare the amount you feed of it you will actually come out cheaper feeding it than Sextons.
There is a couple of feeds that are a comparable to Sextons in price, that compare to Diamond EA but they aren't sold anywhere around us. I am working on getting some of them sold here very soon.

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Your right Wayne. That's why I don't bother.
I live by 2 codes when it comes to my dogs.
A healthy dog is a cheap dog.
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For the record,i never said you were wrong. I said i know for a fact that mine stayed wormier on that food for some reason. There is about 20 other coonhunters here in this county that would back me up on this with their own dogs doing the same. I still feed it does that tell you anything? Having to worm my dogs more aint killing me.It cant be nothing but good for them. Isnt it funny that the feed supply owner even told me that before i started buying the dogfood?

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Having to worm them more might not be hurting you but rest assured it isn't doing your dogs any good. I don't understand some peoples thinking.

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I PUT cheap feed in my feeders and boy it ain't hurting the coons. they sure can flat run...LOL
i guess i need to cut their protein down to 10 percent

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Feed can not give your dogs worms but it can give them grain mites that might be the problem but it is not worms from the feed.
Its cheaper to feed quality any day.

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good feed and it IS A LOT CHEEPER IN THE LONG RUN 4 you and better 4 your dog

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The feed doesn't directly give the dogs worms. If fed over time and their general health deteriorates as a result of poor quality feed, they may become more prone to all sorts of things due to an overall weakened system, worms is just one of them. Pretty basic stuff fellas.

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OK let's say you know the best dog feed out there. Why don't you share that info with us uneducated coon hunters?. Give us the pro and con about the feed. In other words WHAT makes the feed you choose the best out there I need to know. thanks in advance H L Meyer

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Ive not fed sexton bros for long. Maybe 6 months. I understand that guy has many years of experience of me and fully respect him. Im looking for info. I know dogs are going to get worms. I worm mine once a month normally. I have to do it about twice a month on this feed. Can anyone tell me whats the deal with that?? I appreciate all the info. As for reading the labels go,I dont know what all the ingredients on a pop can mean much less dogfood. I guess i still got a lot of learning to do for sure.

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you better go back and reread your post you said it gave them worms when i explained that worm didn't come from dog food you insisted it did

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when i explained to you about feeding a better feed it actually cheaper because the dog is healthier and it takes less feed to maintain the dog you still insisted your feed was alright to feed.
how many dogs are you feeding, there are many dog foods that aren't the best but there based on meat and meat products.
keep your dog wormed and feed a decent feed and you will save money.

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i have over the years explained many times the value of feeding a good meat dog food i hesitate to mention a brand name due to the fact everyone has there own brand they feed. if i mentipn the brand the post changes to a brand war and i hear that brand killed dogs however over the years quite a few of the major dog food manufacturers have had the same problem but never brought it foward untill the lawsuits started and guess what in most cases it was corn was the ingredient that caused the ptoblems.
now i will say what i feed i feed a few of the brans that diamond makes and i necer had a problem with the food and a lot of people that never purdhased a giamond product was feeding it and lost dogs actualy it was quite funny without mentioning names one person was touting purina and as soon as diamond had a problem this person lost 3 of her best dogs from diamond dog food.
i feed three types of diamond the maroon bag which still comes in 50 pound bags tje green bag and there naturals it depends on how much the dogs are working as to who gets which one.

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the reason is a dog thats well nourished and healthy will shed a lot of worms without wormer so when you do worm them you get the rest if a dog is not in top shape you have to worm more often some people seem to think if a dog is fat and shiny there healthe this is not true corn based food will make a dog shine but the same animal may not be nourished properly. beside the protein count whats more important is the source of the protein.
another reason i am a confirmed meat protein is that i have raised many types of sporting and working dogs and have had some real old dogs stay phisically strong and have had males still fertile up to 14 years old where they were still siring large litters

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Going to stir the pot a little but I had the dogs all to the vet yesterday for their spring checkup and needles. Dogs were all in great shape and good muscle tone and my vet told me to cut back a little on the feed as they may be getting a little to heavy. They have not run in 3 weeks but have been run at least 4 to 5 days a week all winter long with an average days running being 17 to 23 miles at an average speed of just over 6 mph.

Here is the sticker. I am limited on where i can buy my dog food and so have always fed Old Roy. I used to feed meat scrapes but no longer as there is no need as they are fit and good shape and are at the kennel door every morning waiting to get loaded.

I think most feed what they can afford and what are in their area. I think some as Using Macy bags to carry the dog food that they feed.

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Wayne, most will have to do as we did, learn the hard way, through trial and error. I use to feed Diamond, but lost faith in it after the recall and started having probelms with me dogs on it. I now feed Prism and will not change! It does great by my dogs and my pocketbook. Anyone can look at my dogs and pups and know they are healthy and well fed. 50# - $20.00

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was at dave dean one time ,and the dog food he sold and fed ,started giving his dogs worms ,he said it had always been good feed up to that point he ask the rep to do a walk through the plant ,after walk through there was broken temp gauges all over the plant ,he had told them that needed to be fix or he was going else where and so they did and the worm problem stop ,point is sometime is does happen ,I agree meat based food is the only way to go, the problem with some of this feed is they have a good product ,and they start to screw with it ,change it to make it cheaper on them and in return quality goes down ,and I have seen this from top brand feeds ,I have cauld them on it and they say why do u think we have change something ?I can tell in the dog ,weight , stool types etc. then they say yea we have tried this way of puttting the fat on the food verse the way we used to or we have changed this ingredient , they have replaced my feed when they have found out the new way wasnt working as well ,I wish they would go with if it aint broke dont fix it ,just what I have seen and my thoughts on the subject

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i give credit to you becauls you know good feed from bad and most dont learn it till they are to old to hunt.cheep feed cost you 2 times the feed and a lot more vet bills that is why i like good feed and the dogs do better and like you said live a lot longer

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i can see weevils or other plant inxecs but all these insects have a cycle and dogs are not in that cycle so how did worms that cycle through animals get in the dog food

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