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russ hayes
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how can you tell if they are running a fox

Could you tell me some ways you know a dog is running a fox,both red and gray

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Generally......a red will get up and go like a deer, only they might run a bigger circle. Greys sometimes run like a rabbit, sometimes run like a coon and your dog will tap or locate a tree a few times, before they take off and run like a red. A grey can sometimes make you think you're running a coon that might jump out.......all night. In our area the greys were all but run out by coyotes. That's the only thing a coyote is good for.

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CIRCLES.

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Try Going Coon hunting at around 8:00 am Morning .. Then you can see everything your Hound is doing .. These is a Great time to do some "Training"

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Try Going Coon hunting at around 8:00 am Morning .. Then you can see everything your Hound is doing .. These is a Great time to do some "Training"


good idea just at lite

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wayne f
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bobcats will run then tree then run tree and jump out they are quick but short winded

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joseph mcdonald
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circles are a good indication, some hounds cant pressure game enough to really judge what off game they are really running. If there is a fox pen in your area, find some foxhound guys and go with them at night. I really believe most hunters would really learn alot about whats going on if they would hunt some "off game" with other hound guys.

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One or two loops and then gone in a straight line and repeat. I have one that is bad right now, and I haven't been able to break him. I have been trying to place him with a yote or fox hunter for over a year. His time is about to run out. He has to Feb 1st, and then I am done.

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Hud Vut

Som times you can tell by their voice....

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Hey randy

a grey can climb a tree....red cant

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joseph mcdonald
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capt. ag. We run fox with foxhounds and I assure you reds will climb a tree when the pressure is on. Seen it several times. Doubtful a coonhound will pressure one that hard, but we have treed reds with our foxhound packs.

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yep what they said...........

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quote:
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One or two loops and then gone in a straight line and repeat. I have one that is bad right now, and I haven't been able to break him. I have been trying to place him with a yote or fox hunter for over a year. His time is about to run out. He has to Feb 1st, and then I am done.


larry you can sale that dog for alot if it'll run and tree a grey fox.

and joseph is rite reds will go up a tree, seen it happen myself, my grandfather had a pack of july's that treed one before.

If you have any kind of hunch its running some off game, blast it with the shocker, don't fry it but buzz it.. if it has the desire to tree coons it'll stay on coons and work its way off the junk.. but its ben my experience that most greys make a huge wide circle and run it around and around and each time it gets smaller and smaller, and then they finally tree.. reds are a toss of a coin, b line or do circles.. the idea with a fox is to try and push it so hard it just has to keep going untill it gets out of its usual territory then its dumb and will be caught normally by the dogs with no problem.. anywho.. have a good one

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I recommend you speak with some of your older local fox hunters. I hunted foxes with hounds from the time I was 10 until about 18 yrs of age. It was my experiemce that foxes don't tap trees. Anytime I went to a fox hound that was tapping a tree it was either empty or had a coon or possum. I only treed 1 fox in those 8 years of hunting 2-3 nights per week. That fox treed because the dogs were about to catch it.

If your hound runs a track for 1 hour or more, and has never tapped a tree once, you can be 90% sure he is running a deer or fox. The other 10% of the time this happens to you he may be running a coon, cat, or something else.

Greys usually run approx. 1/2 mile circle and like rabbit cover, Reds run 1/2 to 2 mile circles and like pasture fields & cleam woods.

Just my opinion, hope this helps!

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Tonight I could tell that we had run a yote due to the fact that the hollow log that the dog got treed on had a yote in it! Never seen this before. It was about 25 feet into a down basswood. It will not come out ever.

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sounds good

I know some people dont know what there dogs is doing. It just comes tree after it runs rabbits

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quote:
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I recommend you speak with some of your older local fox hunters. I hunted foxes with hounds from the time I was 10 until about 18 yrs of age. It was my experiemce that foxes don't tap trees. Anytime I went to a fox hound that was tapping a tree it was either empty or had a coon or possum. I only treed 1 fox in those 8 years of hunting 2-3 nights per week. That fox treed because the dogs were about to catch it.

If your hound runs a track for 1 hour or more, and has never tapped a tree once, you can be 90% sure he is running a deer or fox. The other 10% of the time this happens to you he may be running a coon, cat, or something else.

Greys usually run approx. 1/2 mile circle and like rabbit cover, Reds run 1/2 to 2 mile circles and like pasture fields & cleam woods.

Just my opinion, hope this helps!




This is the most accurate description on here ... both make for a good race ...

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bobcats will run then tree then run tree and jump out they are quick but short winded


Ya 5hrs short winded.... that's how long I chased a couple young dogs up over the mountain a few years back....

I think what you mean by short winded is that they will go up at a faster frequency bc they are short winded....

I know it wasn't until the end of the night until that cat my dogs were after went up every couple hundred yards.

The 4 hours before that he went 400 or 500 yards+ every time! LOL

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Sounds like my dog may have ran a fox the other night. He struck track which normally he never barks on tracks. Wanted to tree twice, then brought whatever it was right back down my us. Went back up the hill and stopped in this huge cave/den In the pic my dog is standing beside the cave. Thats just to show how tall it was. i wear a sunburst lighted collar on him and he was so far back i couldnt even see that on him.

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Not to steal thread or anything but id like you guys to take a look at this so i can get your opions if you think there was a coon in there. Its as wide as the mouth almost the whole way back

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Generally......a red will get up and go like a deer, only they might run a bigger circle. Greys sometimes run like a rabbit, sometimes run like a coon and your dog will tap or locate a tree a few times, before they take off and run like a red. A grey can sometimes make you think you're running a coon that might jump out.......all night. In our area the greys were all but run out by coyotes. That's the only thing a coyote is good for.
I Agree with this one.

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