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I'm not breeding her for a while but I'd like to get some opinions on what stud yall think would make a good cross. A few people have suggested some that I like, but the more options the better. The stud MUST be a UKC hunting beagle champion and if not a bench champion, he must have good conformation. Conformation is very important to me. If at all possible I'd like to breed her with a dog that has Arnold blood.

For those that haven't hunted with her: She is a 13 in, she runs a track very fast and gets 1st on lines often. She is very tight mouthed but has gotten A LOT better with time (she just turned 1 old). Because of that I'd like a stud that is more loose mouthed but honest.

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------CH GRHBCH Arnold's Little Chip
---(sire)GRHBCH Wade's High Mountain Hammer
------HBCH CH Arnold's Little KY Mtn Lacy
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---(dam)HBCH Arnold's Supper Runnin Freckles
------GRHBCH Arnold's Supper Runnin Shylo

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Breed her to White River Jake
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You have a WR dog that is even slightly loose mouthed??

I have one that is the tightest mouth dog I have ever been in the woods with, and most that I talk to say the same about theirs. If mine opens, safeties "CLICK".

I love it, but I was just wondering if you have something different out of your cross.

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meg thank you should go with a dog i know his name is HBCH BRUSH AXES HURRY UP LEFTY this hound would be ideal for CALI I put the first place win on this hound and he done it on three legs ( had a thorn bout 3/4 of an inch in his paw from morning cast ) in the final for one of the best jump and track dog i ve seen in awhile with ample foot. Not tryin to sell you guys on anything but if interested let me know ether pm or e mail me on my myspace. I would also like a pup if you cross her to him

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xdawg tick

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GRHBCH Sundown Triple Threat, Don and Dave Mcvay

Reason being he is throwing super nose in is offspring,and all the same quilities in your female. I'm not trying to favor anyones dog just trying to help out there is alot of nice studs out there,I myself have one but he is not what your looking for. GRHBCH Buck Lake Boogen Hotrod is anouther one that has these traits.

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CALL DOUG DePEW --AUBURN,IN. 260/582/9111--He has a dog off of CHIP & LACY ----he also has a dog out of HAMMER---the last time I ran with him he did anyway I think about all his dogs are out of CHIP-HAMMER --BANDIT --He dosen't trail very much --they have nose and speed and hunt

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U WANT HUNT AND SHOW THERS TONS OF GREAT DOGS ,I PERSONALLY OWN 2 GYPS THAT GO BACK 2 CHIP ALL MY STUFF GOES BACK 2 CHUBBY SO COME 2 THINK ABOUT THIS JAKE WOULDNT BE A BAD DEC. AT ALL SEEN SOME SOLID HOUNDS OUT OF HIM AND HAVE HUNTED WITH HIS LITTERMATES OVER THE YEARS HE IS A PROVEN REPORDUCER THAT IS WHAT U GOTA LOOK FOR AND IF U DO TAKE A GAMBLE ON A HOUND THAT ISNT LOOK DEEP 2 SEE IF THERE IS ANY BEHIND HIM, JAKE GOES BACK TO CHUBBY AND COPEN ANN SO YOU KNOW WHAT THATS ALL ABOUT MY OPP. AND GRANTED IVE ONLY REALLY HUNTED LOCAL IS THAT OWEN ARNOLD HAD 2 OF THE BEST STUDS EVER THEY ARE STIL PUTTIN THERE MARK ON THE SPORT

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I agree with you CSG. I have a 3yr old chip\lacy female that I'm thinking about finding a heavy Northway stud to take her to. But I also think Jake would be a good choice. I have seen some good dogs come out of crossing chip stuff with the white river stuff

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xdawgs tick is tight mouth 9.5 on speed and is directly off jake and right down the road from ya

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ticks a nice hound to go to i watched him do some winning

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marc murray buzz dog would be good to meg go to crowtownkennels he is a very nice hound as for total dog this is majors dad

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Hi Country girl,
I would breed her to Bill Stewarts GRHBCH Sling Shot Chester.Chester is a full littermate brother of Bill McFarland's GRHBCH Shenango Star who we all know won the world in 2006. Now Star is out of Chip directly and Bill McFarlands GRHBCH Billy Jacks Boots bitch.I dont do much trialing in the UKC only performance pack occasionally,as I generally run a little more conservative line control type hound and I trial mostly AKC and ARHA.I do however have two good footy bitches one double Ace In The Hole&double New City bred and one double Ace In The Hole & double Turbo bred that I run with friends that have the hunting beagle style hounds.I seen Chester at a trial in Sagertown Pa.,when I judged a winners cast and thought he was a fine hound plenty of foot and good line control,and confirmation out the wazoo Im not sure but he may be a show champ to.I asked Bill McFarland one day while we were running dogs about Chester since I have only seen him twice,about using him for a stud to one of my bitches and Bill said he thought Chester would be just fine.Larry Arnold is a good personal friend of mine,and Owens cousin and I can tell you they started about 25-30 yrs ago breeding with the same hounds.Owen went more agressive and larry went more conservative.Larry and I trial together and I have a lot of his Arnold blood in my hounds.Occasionally we like to throw a little more footy hound into the mix and Chester would fit the bill since half of him goes back to the ancestors in my Arnold hounds.Oh well its just a suggestion. -----------------------Vic

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hey, tick really is a nice hound i just dont know about his owner.(lol) we are not standing grhbch barcus ohio river tuck ll to outside bitches right now ,going to try to finish him akc . if your interested we may stand him next spring if things go our way.

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if i were you, since your not going to breed her soon ,i would try and hunt with some dogs you may be interested in breeding to. this way you can see what dog has the qualities your looking for. just an idea

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Better yet, I would run with dogs out of the sire's that you're thinking about. Good dogs don't always throw good dogs. Run with dogs out of a few different bitches if you can. That will show what the sire's bringing to the table.

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loko go red throws nicepups...call bub he will show what red is throwing...hope this helps marcus

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Highly recommend Strongbow Chip Off The Block. Everyone seems to know how the White River lines are, well here's your chance to do the same thing. Fire River Michael x White River Lulu produced some of the best. Lulu was Arnold bred, Chip is a son of Michael. Chip definitely has the conformation and Michael gave him the hunt. Call Donny and Dave McVay.

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I'm curious ... what have you decided?

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Donnie and Dave's Chip off the block is a great hound and he can put great conformation in his pups ! he is a great sire .
but Chip is out of Fire River Michael X Strongbow Briarhill Dahli not Whiteriver Lulu

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Donnie and Dave's Chip off the block is a great hound and he can put great conformation in his pups ! he is a great sire .
but Chip is out of Fire River Michael X Strongbow Briarhill Dahli not Whiteriver Lulu

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well then are you aware than she could breed to Cannonballs White River Rambling Striker ( fire river michael and white river lulu ) which would be double arnold bred

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maybe something off of Anthony Phalegraf's Bandit dog that would add more Chubby and he is the dog that is the link in both the White River breeding and in Owen's breeding and in my mind has been probibly the most influintal stud dog in UKC

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maybe something off of Anthony Phalegraf's Bandit dog that would add more Chubby and he is the dog that is the link in both the White River breeding and in Owen's breeding and in my mind has been probibly the most influintal stud dog in UKC

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I'm a stud. Oh, sorry, wrong message board!

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