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Hello,
I just purchased a "redbone" coonhound pup from a woman yesterday..I saw the mother dog who was obiously a red..and she said the dad was a red as well but he got out of his pen and got hit by a car a few weeks before..anyway, all the puppies in the litter were red except for the one that I got (that was black and tan coloring) she said in the previous litter there were 2 that were black and tan as well...and she thinks that that coloring must run in the lines up in the grandparents or something...

she said both the parents were reds..all the puppies were reds except for mine, so is he still considered a red even though his coloring is different?

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Sounds kinda strange to me.... there's obviously a BnT mixed in somewhere in your pup's breeding.

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It is a recessive gene that is coming through.. It happens in the breeds upon occasion. ... He is still a "redbone" but I am sure that he can't be registered because that is not a color standard for that breed.

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... or not rare... to have BnT colored pups from redbones. It is just a throwback to old breeding. Go over to the redbone forum and you will find info on this. You can ask your question over there and get more answers.

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judgeing according to the breed history of the redbone the coloration is red and in old blood redbones had white markings on the chest. Now somewhere back in time a redbone of that bloodline could have very easily been crossbred with a black -n-tan or bloodhound to freshen up the blood or to give the body of the offspring more bulkiness or more of a colder nose. but to particepate in shows that coloration is not perciple.

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I have seen Black & Tans out of Redbones in the past. And Buckskin Plotts. And Buckskin Blues.

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its called a blanket back this was very common many years ago
untill the show people got there hands on the breed. there are still to this day pups born like that. look on your pedagree and find out if there is some burning ben blood in there i now he threw a bunch of black and tans

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a male here when his litter was born most of them looked like black and tans but after the grew up the black hair thined out and
they became a real deep red so don't be to alarmed he will lighten up some

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josh this is a old grade dog 1/2 lemon spotted cur
1/2 redbone that placed 2nd around 1966 redbone days

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The old man who I started coonhunting with always had a fancy for what he called saddleback redbones. According to him thats what the old redbones looked like, or at least it was a very common color. Think redbone with a walker blanket on there back.

His dogs always threw one or two in a litter as well as one here and there that were kind of a steel blue color.

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the dog on the far left is a littermate to the black dog

all of these redbones are from mercer co. and turpin
was from boyle co.

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I got a buddy that got one thats the same way... Its a blanket backed redbone. Black blanket and the rest is red.. 2 in this litter were born that way.

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A lot of redbones today still have white on them. One of the nicest looking black and tan pups I ever saw was out of two registered redbones. My buddy had a dog that looked like a purebred black and tan that was half redbone and half bluetick. I have seen a lot of pups with black saddles like Josh describes and like he said it usually fades and you end up with a dark red colored dog. As far as registering the dog as a redbone you can't, it won't fit the breed standards. Redbones throwing black and tans happens more than most realize.

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this is more common than most redbone folks want to admit, i would like to say if it is black and tan more than likley it will stay black and tan(for sure if it has the pumpkin seed over the eyes)any redbone person that has bred several litters has more than likely seen one. they are usally culled or given away as pets in most cases, i asked a ukc rep once at redbone days if i could hunt a black and tan (redbone) even though it proved dna that it was from 2 red colored parents and was told you shouldn't even register the pup(gave one away to a hide hunter and dog was a nice hound at a young age(no papers))(in fact it was a littermate brother to the female below) some strains of redbone seem to throw more than some of the others strains, i would say the more line bred or the one that haven't mixed in outside blood will tend a better chance of black and tan. of course this is all just my opinion.

for bred right kennels the black traces back to a male we owned named ch.nt.ch. lucking's kn. lake trooper(he was heavy timber chopper bred) the female below is a grandaughter to him, her last litter to date which was of 5 had a black and tan in it. the pups are 3 times trooper.

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..........is there alot of Timber Chopper in your pups background...............GNC Famous Amos??..................Amos through SEVERAL litters that contained pups that looked like world class black and tans...........pumpkinseeds over the eyes and all......................it is NOT uncommon in certain strains of redbones.............ps-sold the black ones that came in our bitches litter as grade dogs.....they made excellent hounds........

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It is like a bloodhound. Alot of their puppies come out like that. Surely you can still register it with ukc just maybe be a disqualification for bench shows.

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It is like a bloodhound. Alot of their puppies come out like that. Surely you can still register it with ukc just maybe be a disqualification for bench shows.

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I also have a question about coloring on a puppy. We are looking at a redbone puppy with a black stripe on his back. Will that go away as he gets older?

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some good looking dogs

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Litter of 10 Redbone pups-3 were B&T-these were not saddle back, but full colored B&T. They stayed B&T in color also.


This is a pic of one of the red pups when she was about 6 months old. I really need to go get a pic of one of those black pups for reference on this litter...

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I also have a question about coloring on a puppy. We are looking at a redbone puppy with a black stripe on his back. Will that go away as he gets older?

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