Rip
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Originally posted by Todd Miller
I see you point Bill and thats what I was thinking. I did stand back and watch, the dog was smelling up the tree and back down the blow down. Looked like he was trailing like he should of been on the ground, if that make since, plus he wasn't treeing a nice chop like he had on the other tree. I guess if it was my dog it would have to take minus. In fact the handler didn't want to tree him very bad, he said he waited for another dog to tree.
Rip, hope this helps it is a tough call.
If it's the same tree it's the same tree and the dog shouldn't be minused. There is nothing in the rules about the dog having to "stand still" to tree, or having to "have the same chop" etc. If it was all one tree the dog was within the rules to move around the entire thing as long as he didn't leave there and was in fact showing treed.
As for him not treeing right, many of us break our dogs from treeing in the ground, so they won't tree right on a dozer pile either cause it's not up a tree (and if they get in there good enough that they see it's a hole in the ground they will leave, as they should).
If it was showing tree and never left that entire pile that was considered the same tree then it is circled.
Now if it DID leave that conglomeration that was the place of refuge he would be minused because even at a hole/place of refuge dogs declared treed must stay at the hole/place of refuge just like it was a tree. They can't be saved by the "one dog showing the end of the track". That is reserved for strike points only.
A good handler would NOT have treed his dog at that time because he would have known his dog good enough to know it was not treed on a tree but was barking in a tile/hole/brush etc and he would have only need to be in the area to get his strike scored as opposed to having to show treed.
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