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Okay, I love coonhounds but do not hunt. Heck, I don't even own a gun!

I am considering purchasing a new dog. I am involved in obedience and rally, and am interested in agility and the breed ring. Yes, I know that I am insane to want to do these things with a coonhound.

Is there anyone out there that can point me in the direction of a reputable kennel in WI or MN that won't immediately laugh at me? I do have a UKC obedience title on my coonhound mix and he was great when we were training in agility (but I sucked so we never competed), so I know it is possible to do these non-hunting sports with the coonhounds.

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You need to ask the Breeder's if they Imprint their Litters..

This would be the best type of pup to start with.

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all dogs, if they were bred for the most important thing one can breed for, BRAINS, can be trained to do it all. get you a walker hound and your worries are over.

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A wasp waisted Keemer Mountain cur is the most agile I've seen of any, I mean all breeds of dogs. And a smart one will be focussed enough.

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I have titled the following Coonhound breeds:
B&T - CD
B&T - UCD, UCDX
BLU - UCD,UCDX, BH
PLT - CD
PLT - CD
Coonhounds will do obedience just as well as other breeds. I've titled more than dozen other breeds through the years. What's important is to find a high energy, friendly, outgoing hound that will focus and bond with you. For me, the easiest hounds to train for obedience were the Bluetick & the Plotts. I discovered that the hounds need more praise & positive reward than some of the other breeds and they get bored if you make your training sessions too long or repetitive. If I had to rate those three breeds for suitability to obedience, I'd put Plotts as number one. A good Plott that is well socialized has the intelligence, ATTITUDE and abilitites of a well bred German Shepherd and will "go the extra mile" to PLEASE you.

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Their was a kennel , i believe advetized in the late 80's that had coonhounds with Schutzand degrees I II and III. which is Obediance,,Trailing(tracking) and Protection.

This kennel had Blueticks

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Thanks Sky.

I have fostered Blueticks, TWs, and Plotts; but the Blueticks are definately my favorite. (not bashing any of the breeds...I just don't know how anyone can look at a Bluetick and not smile.)

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I have to agree with Skyblu.....with one big addition. The difference between a good coonhound and an average coonhound is the internal DRIVE of that particular hound. A hound that is a top of the line competition hound has an inate desire to please ITSELF. It's reward is what's at the end of that track. In obediance you want a dog that looks to please YOU. A good obediance dog realizes that you and he/she are a team and works to please and be rewarded by you.

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Randy, I think you just hit why treats and praise are so important when doing obedience with coonhounds. I have only had one who worked for me...for the rest it was all about the food!

I am not looking for a great obedience dog...Just one that is fun to work with.

My favorite stories about trying my mix was training the retreive. It took weeks to get him to go out and pick up the dumbbell. He just wanted to go out and bay at it. I think the "serious" obedience people I was training with were frustrated by this behavior, but he is a hound.

So, do you know where I could find a good breeder with an "average" coonhound in my area? LOL!

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I've just started competing in rally with a basset (and we're taking a formal obedience class...). She just turned 9 in May I didn't get her until she was 4 or so... personally I'd see what you can find in rescues - I prefer working with dogs of an age that you already kind of have an idea of how "trainable" they'll be for this sort of thing... I think if my basset was "typical" this would've been a lot harder - as it is, she's real small, I can call her right off a rabbit, and she has GREAT FOCUS (on me, not necessarily food - not typical! hehe) good luck!


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And then I realized you're also interested in the breed ring! See if anyone has a slightly older dog that maybe didnt quite make it as a hunting dog? This is pretty much what happened with Daisy... heh

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I dont agree with taking a hunting dog and not hunting it. If you do choose to do this, I hope you will get it fixed...this is very important to the hound breeds.

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mjflores, you are entiltled to your opinion. In the decade or so I have been doing rescue, I have only had one coonhound come through that was suited to be placed in a real hunting homes-A beautiful Treeing Walker girl. A coonhound may be a hunting breed, but not all of them are wired to be a serious hunter. If they were, every coonhound would be a hunting champion! I am looking for one of those coonhounds that a serious hunter would say "**** that is a good looking dog...Too bad he won't hunt worth a darn."

As for breeding...that is NOT my thing, but the dog has to be intact to get into the breed ring.

ugh...I hate puppies! LOL!

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http://www.precisionk-9.com/

She has done it.

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also worked in Schutzhund, including trailing and bite-work (protection). I just didn't get him a Schutzhund I, II. or III because I moved to another state. His BH title stands for "Begleithund", a Schutzhund title that requires fundamental
K-9 (police dog) obedience such as offleash work obeying commands on the move, working through crowds and proof of steadiness performing during gunfire.

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skyblu - are they still using the umbrella test???

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the umbrella test as part of the TEMPERAMENT TEST - but not as part of K-9 and Schutzhund work titles.

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In Ohio , owned by Willy , he is your ticket !!

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Could show you some very intelligent easily trainable Bluetick's rite here in scenic southwest Wisconsin.....

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I have a 4 year old purebred female treeing walker coonhound that I'm looking to find her a new home. I'm not interested in making money off her, just making sure she goes to a permament home. She's up to date on all her shots. She's very sweet. Would do better in a family without small children.

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Paula (precision k9) has titled two blue dogs in obedience and has done demonstrations at the Premier show. She is very generous with her time.

Also, Michelle Brown here has put all sort of amazing titles on her Walker dogs, especially one named Adonis. She would also be a good person to ask for advice. her handle here is chellesboys

Jerry Dunham in Texas has a coonhound rescue and might be able to match you up with a suitable hound. He has contacts nation wide. jdunham@texas.net

You don't need a gun to hunt hounds. Killing a coon occasionally helps with the training, but its not necessary. Go to a UKC event and ask to go out as a spectator. No firearms allowed. Be prepared to come back wet and covered with mud, but you will have a great time...

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Very interesting! I'm getting a redbone boy 3 Fridays from now, and am not a hunter myself. However, I wanted to work him and have him utilize his instincts and his nose. I've got about 10 acres or so of woods right behind the house, and my parents down the road have about 68 acres of farmland and woods, so he'll be getting plenty of walks and exercise. : )

I admit, my first thought when getting a dog was agility or obedience. With a scenthound, I've learned about tracking, so I'll definitely explore that, but actually my breeder, Janet Ford, brought up that one of her old puppies was actually titled in obedience! Pretty awesome, I thought. And since I don't really have working clubs around me, just obedience/rally/agility, maybe I'll get him involved anyways and see where it goes.

I like wildlife too much to actually kill raccoons, but I would definitely use my boy to track and tree them.

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Jerry Dunham in Texas has a coonhound rescue and might be able to match you up with a suitable hound. He has contacts nation wide. jdunham@texas.net

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