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Stephen Chamblee
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Dear Mrs Pelosi......

I hope you will do some better research and fact finding before you give another impassioned, yet ignorant speech. How can you say if they do not pass this over blown economic stimulus pork barrel spending bill, that 500,000,000 americans will loose thier jobs? When in reality according to the July 2008 census there is only 303,824,640 people in america total (Employed, Unemployed, Children, Etc.). Please dont think that americans are as ignorant as you are.

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JUST WAIT A FEW MONTHS AND SEE HOW MANY ARE UNEMPLOYED......THERE ARE FACTORYS AND SUCH SHUTTING DOWN ALL OVER THE COUNTRY.........

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Companies are shutting down and if they don't make condoms or golf courses looks like there is no hope for them in the democratic congress's package and they will continue to shut down....But Acorn is set to get 260 million.

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Stephen Chamblee
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Smokin... I am not doubting that things are bad and that they are probly gonna get worse. Just wanting her to give a believable figure not one that she obviously pulled out of thin air!

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Dear Mr. Rosco

Since I have never held a real job but am a politician I am in a better position to know all about who is working and how to count them. Some Americans are working two or three jobs, some even more so that is how my fuzzy math works. They have had to do this to support our huge welfare system and also to keep gov't pork programs popping up like kittens from stray cats. Don't worry about anything, we here in Washington know way more than any average working American and will have it all fixed right up. Plus every kid will get a pony and a free pass to the Big Rock Candy Mountain.

Comrade Pelosivich

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BLUEDUCK
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Speaker Pelosi’s Payoffs and Pork Bill
H.R. 1, “The American Recovery & Reinvestment Act of 2009”
The Congressional Budget Office (CBO) recently found that the cost of the Pelosi-Reid stimulus package now
exceeds $1.1 trillion. CBO also estimated that only 7 percent of infrastructure money would make its way
into the economy by the end of the year and only 38 percent would be spent by the end of the 2010 fiscal year.
Senator Jeff Session’s (R-Ala.) office estimates the actual number going to tangible road and bridge
construction is just a little more than 3 percent.
Where is this money going to? A not exhaustive look at the 1,588 page legislation, H.R. 1, “The American
Recovery & Reinvestment Act of 2009” shows the bill is more payoffs and pork then stimulus. Many thanks to
the website readthestimulus.org and its participating organizations.
PAYOFFS
To the “Green” Lobby
$600 Million To Buy New Cars For Government Workers (Page 89)
These cars would be “green” friendly cars – however very few gas pumps have the right gas to run these cars.
The Federal government already spends $3.5 billion a year.
$10M for bike and walking trails (Page 65)
$200M for plug-in car stations (Page 31)
$400 million for NASA scientists to conduct climate change research (Page 22)
$800 million to clean up Superfund sites (Page 122)
$600 million for grants for diesel emission reduction (Page 119)
$650 million for “alternative energy technologies, energy efficiency enhancements and deferred
maintenance at Federal facilities” (Page 119)
$1.5 billion for construction of “Green Schools” (Page 176)
To the Unions
$1 billion to the controversial COMMUNITY ORIENTED POLICING SERVICES COPS Hiring
Program
“$150 billion in new federal spending, a vast two-year investment that would more than double the
Department of Education’s current budget. The proposed emergency expenditures on nearly every realm of
education, including school renovation, special education, Head Start and grants to needy college students”
Sam Dillon, “Stimulus Plan Would Provide Flood of Aid to Education,” New York Times. January 27, 2009.
NOTE: Private and religious schools are excluded.
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/28/e...8educ.html?_r=1
To the Abortion Industry
Representative Henry Waxman (D-Calif.) inserted in the original bill billions of dollars for family
planning groups, including the abortion giant, Planned Parenthood. Pressure and public exposure from
Congressional Republicans forced the Democrats to remove such funding from this bill. However the
bill still provides billions in reforming the health care system and working towards nationalized health
care – with little to no debate.
$2.7B in NIH grants which would be targeted to among other things embryonic stem cell
experimentation. (Page 56)
Other Special Interests
$3 Billion for Prevention & Wellness Programs, Including $335 million for STD Education and
Prevention -- Recent government expenditures in this area include a transgender beauty pageant in San
Francisco that advertised available HIV testing and an event called “Got Love? – Flirt/Date/Score” that taught
participants how “to flirt with greater finesse.”
$83 billion for the earned income credit for people who don't pay income tax.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123310466514522309.html
$246 million for Hollywood http://www.nationaljournal.com/cong...090127_9337.php
$50 million for the National Endowment for the Arts (Page 122)
$75 million for smoking cessation (Page 148). This contradicts the latest version of SCHIP that is funded
largely by new taxes on cigarettes.
$4.19 billion open to ACORN. The Pelosi-Reid bill makes groups like ACORN eligible for a $4.19 billion
pot of money for “neighborhood stabilization activities.”
MISCELLANEOUS PORK
Some of the biggest winners in the package are federal agencies:
$54 billion will go to federal programs that the Office of Management and Budget or the Government
Accountability Office have already criticized as "ineffective" or unable to pass basic financial audits.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123310466514522309.html
$462 Million for Equipment, Construction, and Renovation of Facilities at the Centers for Disease
Control (CDC) (Page 137)
$150 Million for Repairs to Smithsonian Institution Facilities (Page 128)
$44 million to the Agricultural Research Service (Page 135)
$227 million for oversight of the pork barrel spending in the stimulus (Page 11)
$1 Billion for The Follow-Up To The 2010 Census (Page 49)
Discretion is given to governors and Mayors for how to spend a large chunk of the money. The U.S.
Conference of Mayors recently sent Congress a $96.6 billion wish list of "shovel-ready" projects which now
could be funded by the stimulus. These projects include: “$1 million for annual sewer rehabilitation in Casper,
WY; $6.1 million for corporate hangars, parking lots, and a business apron at the Fayetteville, AR airport; 28
projects with the term "stadium" in them; and 117 projects mentioning landscaping and/or beautification
efforts. The taxpayers should be most teed off at the 20 golf courses included in the list.”
http://www.ntu.org/main/press.php?P...mp;org_name=NTU

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Majestic Tree H
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Well EVERYONE Better Learn "Highway Work" if you want a job..
Just Sounds like a Bunch of $8 to $10 hr. Unskilled Jobs


I know how to Stimilate the System !!!

Give everyone 4 months of Tax Free Income ..

That would give me $4,000 to Spend extra.. I pay 16K per year in Total Taxes..

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Lee Stocking
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I watch Fox when I can. Pelosi meant to say 500, 000 jobs. She hickuped twice with her statement. Good thing we Americans caught her on that, we would have to dip into Mexicos working force to loose 500 million jobs with our three hundred sum million population lol

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Lee you hit the nail on the head. She mis spoke.

If Bush had ever dared make an ignorant statement like that they would say he was dumber than a box of rocks. I HATE DOUBLE STANDARDS!!!!!!!!

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quote:
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Give everyone 4 months of Tax Free Income ..

That would give me $4,000 to Spend extra.. I pay 16K per year in Total Taxes..



looks like you had the same math teacher as pelosi

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Majestic Tree H
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Working Way to Hard Lol !!! their are 3- 4s in 12

SAME Teacher !! Short Changed Myself $5,333.33

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Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh I'm gonna tellllllllllllllllllllll..........

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Watch this especially if you voted for change.

http://www.citizenlink.org/Stoplight/A000009104.cfm

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8 years

All we heard for eight years was how dumb, bush was now the real dummies are coming out of the closets every where
Can yawl Belive whats weve been hearing for the past month !
I am no Rocket Scientist but im not stupid either
you cant spend your way out of Dept Hello !!
Here,s your Sign lol

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I could of sworn bush just gave away 350billion. and wanted it to be 700 billion but someone else must of wanted some rules. I want to play in the sand box them good old boys are in.

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sure is alot of republicans venting steem nowadays
the election is over you lost he he he lol.
be nice to me now.

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quote:
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sure is alot of republicans venting steem nowadays
the election is over you lost he he he lol.
be nice to me now.



I think more than the repulicans lost

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best stimulus we can do is bring manufactoring back home. i really got a kick out of joe bidens speach that we should buy american products i for one have always had that mindset ,hoever where can you find a list of american products the government should send out a list of american products that wouldn't be very expensive as it could be written on a half sheet of paper

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we are wasteing a lot of good brains siting on these puters, we have a lot of rockets sciencetist on here ok.

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most of what's been written on here is not rocket science, it's common sense.just seen a little bit of Hussains speech a first thing out of a man's mouth was I wants meez a check!

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