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Do you think UKC should require the Dam of a litter to be DNA'd.
It seems strange to me that the female does not have to be DNA'd at this time! I know it would cost a little more, but without it you just have proof of half of the genetics. There have already been a couple cases that I know of that the female was not out of what it was said she was! To me that means, you have to go through a process that takes a lot of time & no cooperation from powers to be, other than if you think you know the Dam's parents, send in DNA & we'll run it for you! CHI! CHING!!!! Seems to me ,DNA both SIRE & DAM & you eliminate headaches & hard feelings& bad publicity. JMO! What do you think? Any suggestions?

1. Leave the same
2. Require both DNA'S

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john i think both sire & dam should be. good point

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if it is not broke dont fix it.i guess i dont see the need in it.

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if it is not broke dont fix it.i guess i dont see the need in it.

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My only concern is that you spend money on a P.P. pup, & raise it, nominate it, only to find out down the road that it is not out of what you thought it was! Would you be upset if you bought a pup with the intentions of studing him out if he was exceptional, only to find out that guys wouldn't breed to him because they didn't know his true ancestory?JMO!

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Right now it must be by the honor system I Guess, because the Stud has to be DNA'd to be a P.P.sire, but you don't have to DNA the bitch that you breed to.

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Guys, if this prp sire is a ss.sire the female will be have dna done anyway. i see your point though because a lot of dogs are prp. nominated for the sires owners own personal reasons to just get pups from for yourselves & buddies. but why not suggest whoever breeds to a dog that is performanced only do dna on female in place of stud fee? if the females owner isn't willing to do this they're to tight anyway & atleast they will know for sure that their females papers are right & if not they can always single register her or not breed. dna has definitley slowed the papers issue down , but alot of dog traders still do it & i wish they could get jail time for it !!!

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Every dog I own or have owned in the last 7 or 8 years has been profiled with two KC's no matter what sex they were. But that is just a choice I have made. I would be fine with a requirement for both to be DNA'd but I understand why the female is not required. The male must be nominated for a cash fee. That money is paid back to the points earners. That is why they want to be positive the pup is off a nominated stud. The females are not putting money into the program so they have no finacial interest in who the female is off.

I have always been in favor of mandatory DNA for all dogs being registered just for the reason of protecting the integrity of the records.
That might also reduce the number of junk breedings taking place if they had to spend the money to have both parents DNA'd.

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i guess this is a dumb question, but when you DNA a dog. how do they know about parents if they have not been DNA. like i DNA my male. can they really tell if he has what his papers say? i just got a profile which meant nothing to me

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I'm for having the bitches DNA'd and I also think it will be mandatory one of these days..

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i guess this is a dumb question, but when you DNA a dog. how do they know about parents if they have not been DNA. like i DNA my male. can they really tell if he has what his papers say? i just got a profile which meant nothing to me

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My cousin bought a pup in the spring and the sire is not what was advertised but now the mama is DNA profiled. Was supposed to be P.P. Now has a pup with sire unknown.

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mine has Swamp Rooster and Hardtime. i doubt either was DNA

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Here's my guess.
The reason the Sire needs to be DNA'd is to prevent someone from paying up thier good looking stud dog and then using a different male to breed the females with.

Only a guess though.

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