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Keep it simple and real!!Just wondering!!

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Shows interest, listens to commands, likes playing tug of war coon hide, freaks out on a caged coon, maybe gets in there with older dog on the tree alittle, My dog just turned a year old and he he is much different than at nine months he was a litttle a head of schelude but I think I just got very lucky, He runs track and very good on tree , the tree is strong point but His nose is getting colder and I can tell the difference, but I've spent alot of time just training on the simple commands sit, stay, NO!! lay down, roll over stuff like that.

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I expect it to know it's name, what "shut up" means, how to lead, and to come when called.

I may or may not have started taking it to the woods. Many factors control that.

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all the basics and to be able to track and tree a track that i lay with a caged coon.

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DANNY, AFTER YOU HAVE FOOLED WITH NATURAL PUPS I GUESS YOU EXPECT A WHOLE LOT MORE THAN YOU SHOULD. OUR PUPS WE EXPECT THEM TO BE TREEING COONS. NOT ALL DO, BUT THOSE WE SEND DOWN THE ROAD AND THEY MAY EVEN MAKE BETTER DOGS THAN WHAT WE KEEP. STAR AND ROY WOULD TREE THERE OWN COON AT 6 MTHS OLD.. WE HAD 2 FIRST PLACE WINS ON STAR AT 9 MNTHS OLD AND WON BLUETICK DAYS WITH HER AT 10MTHS OLD AND WAS GRANDED OUT BY 14MTHS.. I HAVE A PUP HERE NOW OUT OF ROY THAT TREES HIS OWN COON AND SPLIT TREES AND HOLDS PRESSURE AND HE JUST TURNED 10MTHS OLD, BUT HAS BEEN DOING IT CONSISTANTLY AT 7 TO 8 MTHS OLD.. YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN, BECAUSE I KNOW GAUGE AND SOME OTHERS WERE THE SAME AT A VERY YOUNG AGE.. WHY DO YOU ASK ?? IF I WAS GUESSING I WOULD SAY YOU GOT A FIRECRACKER...LOL.. PETE

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We usually have ours tracking and treeing good with the other dogs. We also like to release caged coon for them at 7-9 months old depending on their maturity level and usually expect them to tree an easy coon in the wild by 8 months old. This is also the time that they are wanting to get off away from the other dogs and find a coon alone. From little on up (6 weeks old) we are working with our dogs on commands and small stuff like taking walks in the woods and playing with a coon hide....

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ive seen a few pretty good dogs at 9 mnths old ,awesome for their age,but ive learned not to get too excited about it because ive seen too many of them never get much better.

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Every dog is different. 4 mo- 9 mo, what ever. Depends on the dog. A friend of mine had an English 4 mo old pup that track and treed his 1st time out. And got only better. That dont happen every day. Early starters are far and few. And like Elvis said dont get better and burnout. So what to expect from a 9mo old. I would say nothing but the usual, unless thier an early starter. Then hope for the best.

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I "expect" mine to be treeing some coons by then. He better be.

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Each pup has its own learning curve. At 9 months old I dont expect much. I don't believe a dogs sense of smell is near as good at 9 months old then say a few months older...my young dogs worst habit is he wants to play with my old dog instead of knowing what he is out there for he is getting better..but has a ways to go. Personally I think you will get more out of a pup at 12 months old in 2 weeks then you get out of a 9 month old in 3 months. Dont get me wrong I have had one that could get it done with anything at 9 months old but you simply cant expect that out of every pup. Let me rephrase that...you wont get that out of every pup.

My home burnt down so i got a late start on my pup but in 1 months time he has learned a great deal he has a long way to go but, he is headed in the right direction. Ive seen him working tracks and opened a couple times...trees with the old dog using his nose on the tree. Going to the old dog when she opens but has not fully went into deep hunting mode. But he is going out alone some and hunting but doesnt seem like he is interested in following another dog..might end up a good thing eventually.

I have to say he isnt coming along as fast as i would like but, im ok with it I am going to give him the best chance i can at making something but, he is only 12 months old himself.

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Real good question Danny.

Whats your opinion?

I really think we are hunting pups way to early. I only say this because after hunting a pup from say 6 months to 9 months and not getting the results you think we should then guess what they get culled or traded. That traded dog may turn out to be something special at 15 months old or before.

If the breeding is there I would like to think the pup sure would show interest on coon whether its in the wild or cage.

So many variables!

My Boomer is just 6 months old and treed the first night out. natural ability. And no Im hot hunting him every night!

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At 9 months if it cant tree an easy coon it better try like hell or i want keep it.

i start hunting mine alone at 6 or 7 months to keep them from ass holen.

My 4 month old jet 9 shadow pup will tree on a turned loose coon if it goes a short distance and trees.

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i have a 2 year old that still cant do it very well and a 6 year old that cant run a cold track.

so if it's a 9 month old and showing interest, i'd be amazed lol


my 2 year old hasnt been in the woods much, and my 6 year old hasnt either, both still have potential though.
my 6 yro is a show dog, my 2 yro kinda is too.

my dogs know the commands, come, sit, lie down, stay and heal, my 6 yro knows, bow, and beg... its pretty cute. and my 2yr old know drop it, and leave it (kinda)...

so my dogs are not just hounds, they are also part of my family, they are both house broken, but both will tree. and my pup is pretty good at running that track.

and dont criticize me for saying my dogs are part of my family, because that is how i was raised and i love animals! so yeah

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go hunting, run and tree coon.

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NOT MUCH! LOL.

Here's why.... when we first started we heard everyone saying a dog should be tracking and treeing on it's own by 9 mos. We started with redbones.

So, our first two young dogs we held till around 10 mos or so, they weren't tracking and treeing alone. Sold them. Guess what? They made some pretty nice hunters that next year for their new owners!

Our first two walker pups.... you know, they say walkers hunt sooner than redbones. Well, sold one at around 7 mos. old. He was a hunting FOOL until he was killed by a car, while hunting, again... for his new owner! The other one turned 1 yr. this July 1st, he just started showing interest in coons at the beginning of fall.

What have we learned? At 9 mos. now we expect the dog to be bench broke, good on a lead, kennel quiet, and well mannered. That's about it. They still act like pups and have their stupid moments... but they are at least barking at caged coon, tracking a hide, and most will tree a released coon. We don't get to serious with them about it until later. We learned our lesson the hard way!

I know there are some awesome dogs out there hunting and winning at 6-8 mos. old. The majority however are not.

If everyone were completely honest about their dogs I think you would find very few dogs that are CONSISTANTLY hunting alone and getting it done at 9 months. But you know hunters, they are just like fishermen! First that fish started out at 5 pounds and by the time they get home it was a 30 pounder.
Same with dogs, they get younger every time the story is told!

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NOT MUCH! LOL.

Here's why.... when we first started we heard everyone saying a dog should be tracking and treeing on it's own by 9 mos. We started with redbones.

So, our first two young dogs we held till around 10 mos or so, they weren't tracking and treeing alone. Sold them. Guess what? They made some pretty nice hunters that next year for their new owners!

Our first two walker pups.... you know, they say walkers hunt sooner than redbones. Well, sold one at around 7 mos. old. He was a hunting FOOL until he was killed by a car, while hunting, again... for his new owner! The other one turned 1 yr. this July 1st, he just started showing interest in coons at the beginning of fall.

What have we learned? At 9 mos. now we expect the dog to be bench broke, good on a lead, kennel quiet, and well mannered. That's about it. They still act like pups and have their stupid moments... but they are at least barking at caged coon, tracking a hide, and most will tree a released coon. We don't get to serious with them about it until later. We learned our lesson the hard way!

I know there are some awesome dogs out there hunting and winning at 6-8 mos. old. The majority however are not.

If everyone were completely honest about their dogs I think you would find very few dogs that are CONSISTANTLY hunting alone and getting it done at 9 months. But you know hunters, they are just like fishermen! First that fish started out at 5 pounds and by the time they get home it was a 30 pounder.
Same with dogs, they get younger every time the story is told!

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At 9 mos old I wouldn't expect much other than it eats, sleeps, messes in the pen and is leading & loading. I'd hope a pup is showing some interest in running and treeing but not all do.
I have a pup here that at 10 months old I didn't think she was going to make it and she wasn't showing much interest. She was just tagging along and staying out of trouble. Now at 11 mos old that last couple nights she is running and treeing with the old dog. She has really progressed in the last 3 nights.
I'm impatient. I only keep a couple dogs. I expect to see "something" out of them before they turn a year old. Until then I'm learning not to expect much.
Be patient, if the breeding is there and they are given opportunities it should show you something when they are ready. If you aren't willing to wait until a pup is at least 1 year old you probably shouldn't be messing with pups.

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at 9 months: I want him in the woods and showing interest... other than that: load, lead and come when I call...... anything else depends on the pup as long as he is moving forward, he'll get more time.....

I try not to have to many expectations. I have found that if expect too much to early, I may be disappointed and give to quick on a good pup......

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9 months old out of Gauge and Snooter. Treeing his own everytime he is takin out by hisself! Will split tree and hold pressure!

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At nine months, I expect them to know their name, and to not bark in the kennel. I expect them to be curious and bold of new things. They should be friendly and outgoing, have had a few rides in the dog box under their belt, doing ok when on a lead and while on a tie out. They should be coming when called, but they'll get hung up while on the way if they find a new smell...I expect and except that. If these foundations are met, then they'll be ready to start in 5 or 6 more months, once they can channel their energy correctly and concentrate on hunting. Excessive playing while you're trying to start them hunting is frusterating to you, and a good way for them to develope bad habits if you ask me. I've never been in a big rush to get a dog hunting...genetics decide that part anyways.

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Just turned six months old. I'll expect a little more out of her by the time she's nine nine months old!

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I think the genetic's flowin in their vein's & the person on the end of the lead make's all the difference. I have consistently hunted & treed boo koo coon with 6 month old pup's alone for year's. Check out our lil reddawg on the redbone forum. She has been doin a heckuva job since prior to 6 month's old.

Have left her tree for hours before goin to her. She is 10 month's now & leads the pack a bunch. Will flat get gone on her own,split treed since she was 6 month's & stayed.

Thing is she's just like our bludawg's we've had for 30 years. At 9 month's & showing no interest runnin loose here or when I hunt my yard coon is not lookin good for them in this holler.

Like Elvis said above,trouble is not a lot get better but I'll tell ya my feeling's on that. I think that when some have a cracker jack pup they think they gotta pound them night after night & that is the worst thing you can do in my opinion. Makin them a GrNt at 8 week's old is all good but more outstanding young dog's are ruined by an over zealous handler.

I ease them along & if they so much as think about a step backwards they get locked up for a couple week's or so instead of keep pushin them to gettin them back rite.

I hunt young pup's alone all the time & really enjoy it more than huntin old steady eddie !

I don't have no video's but I got sh!t loads of picture's of them doing it alone & I don't turn coon loose or lay drag's & havn't for years.

Natural early ability is a genetic thing no matter the color of hound you prefer & let's face it,some have a way of gettin it out early by reading & understanding the pup. Then there are a lot more that have no patient's or the rite personality to capitalize off these fine young hound's.

I think there are very few amongst us that are considered to be excellant pup starters consistently.

Just my experience & take on it for what it's worth!

If ya got a lot of time on your hands hit page one of the "Treein Blue Crew" thread & you'll see all kinds of puppy action all the way to page 349 or what ever it's on.

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I expect to see "potential".
Special/freak I don't think so.
Potential ya, that's what I expect in young prospects.
A 9-10 mth old hasn't done nothing, but showed his potential.
When they get older then you can look back and claim special/freak.
Right now I've got a 10 mth old with his 1st in UKC and $ won in PKC. In his only two hunts he was put in.
I don't think he's special/freak just has a lot of "potential".
Who knows when he's 2-3 yrs. maybe I'll say special/freak.

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Depends on where I live. When I lived up there I expected them to be running and treeing atleast some by themselves and well with older dogs. For years my dogs only had til the age of one year old to be right or be....well you know.
Now that I have been in Florida for the last 10-12 years I don't expect much out of a nine month old. Down here, with the lack of coons and hunting spots, I don't expect much until they are 18 months to 2 years old. It has been a major adjustment for me!

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