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walkerman04
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Mini Slam at A.O.

Was curious about the money figures on the mini slam. There was 117 dogs entered i believe or real close. Thats $3510.... If you won your cast you got your $30 back so thats roughly 30 cast.... So thats $900 off the $3510 for a grand total of $2610... They gave 4 places of $325 a piece for a total of $1300. Take $2610-$1300=$1310. Where did $1,310 go????? Someone made pretty good money and it wasnt the dog or the handler. JMO

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Jonah the slam percentages as they pertain to the total income was laid out a long time ago. The prize money at a slam hunt is 55% which was the same as the other popular money hunt organization at the time. Not sure if their percentages are still the same or not. The club retains 25% which is more than the other organization at the time. The UKC recording fee is 10% which is less than the other organization. And 10% also goes to the Youth Fund which finances the Scholarships that we give away each year at the Youth Nationals.

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walkerman04
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Sounds like the club takes advantage to me. Wasnt sure the % but now it makes sence. $30 dollars dont get you much after the time, gas, and money you have in it to only win $300. Our cast and the cast that won had to drive an hour and a half into Ohio. If i would of known that i would have only won $300 i probably would not of entered. Plus there were not pics recognizing the event winners.

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Re: Mini Slam at A.O.

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Was curious about the money figures on the mini slam. There was 117 dogs entered i believe or real close. Thats $3510.... If you won your cast you got your $30 back so thats roughly 30 cast.... So thats $900 off the $3510 for a grand total of $2610... They gave 4 places of $325 a piece for a total of $1300. Take $2610-$1300=$1310. Where did $1,310 go????? Someone made pretty good money and it wasnt the dog or the handler. JMO


Since I dont know the equations. What would the other 2 registries pay out for 117 dogs @ $30.00?

Maybe they should NOT have split. What were the scores anyway? thnks

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JMO

I had one heck of a time and cant wait till next year!! The money was not my deciding factor .I to drove about 1 hour but that the way its is with that many dogs (?)

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just think if it wasnt worth it for the money to hunt in it because of all the expenses u paid to hunt u could of just been hunting for a trophy and wouldnt of got any money back....

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just think if it wasnt worth it for the money to hunt in it because of all the expenses u paid to hunt u could of just been hunting for a trophy and wouldnt of got any money back....

Ya but atleast with a trophy you would have got your picture taken and national recognition in the book and on the internet. But it dont matter i didnt win. Still had fun!!!

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todd your numbers are off

pkc gives back 68% not 55%. ukc also keeps 20% not 10% I know you say the other is for the kids but it is ukc keeping it and saying they are giving it to the kids.The pkc club gets 20% the ukc club gets 25%.The way it looks to me ukc is keeping much more than pkc is keeping.

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If u want money go to pkc, i hunt for fun thats why i hunt ukc... pkc guys will kill u for forty bucks, thats what nice about ukc no one will kill for a trophy

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If u want money go to pkc, i hunt for fun thats why i hunt ukc... pkc guys will kill u for forty bucks, thats what nice about ukc no one will kill for a trophy

This was UKC and there wasnt a trophy involved. I hunted and had fun just thought more money would be given out, but that was the first money event i have been to and probably the last!!

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Sorry Tanner. I only know that way back when we set it up, we used the same payback % and tried to build more in for the club. Maybe it's time to revisit those percentages? And UKC does not "keep" 20%. We keep 10%. Maybe I need to do a better job letting everyone know at Youth Nationals time that the scholarships are compliments of all the Slam entries. Not a problem. That's a good thing. I can do that. Thanks for the heads up.

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walkerman i understand what your syaing... but for me it was just another hunt cuz i was only forty mins away and i guided so it was not bad at all for me

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