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Pressure

When a dog is split treed with another dog, or even two other dogs for that matter do you think it is harder for dogs to hold the pressure the closer they are, or further from each other? What does everybody think about this?

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they hold better from far away

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I have found hounds hold pressure with other dogs treed some distance away. They hold pressure with dogs treed better than trailing. You let a pack of hounds in a corn field come screaming past a dog treed and if their still treed after two or three circles then you have a pressure tree dog. I would say less than 1% will stay hooked. Those guys with hounds that never pull, normally have a short memory and when they do pull you hear them say, "that coon jumped out or that's the first time".

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I never been able to tell any difference. Either they stay or they don't. If they are a pressure treedog, they stay no matter.

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The reason i asked was because i was hunting my 8month old male with a 3 year old female last night, on the second dump they both struck and treed (split) and help pressure for 5 minutes we walked in and they were treed 10 yards apart on the way home i started wondering if it makes them more curious of whats up the other dogs tree if they are alot closer or not i was pretty impressed

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Did they both have coons?

I have seen young pups make a jelousy tree a short distance from the old dog because they want to be treed but don't want to share or cover. If they both had a coon, then yeah, I'd be real fired up.

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either he will hold or he wont?
1980 ky st a pack of fox hounds ran right
over rock and he kept treeing everybody
in the cast was wanting to call interfrence
the old man said no way and he kept cranking

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Did they both have coons?

I have seen young pups make a jelousy tree a short distance from the old dog because they want to be treed but don't want to share or cover. If they both had a coon, then yeah, I'd be real fired up.

I've seen that alot myself Jim...

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both dogs had several coon up there trees

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Seems like there all different. Some have an easier time when they can see the dogs there split from, some cant take it when its that close. Some can stick with dogs tracking, but cant stand it if another dogs trees. Some dont mind it if everyones treed, but cant stand another dog tracking within hearing.


Either way, there either pressure proof or there not in my book. The good ones dont give a darn what everyone else is doing.


If you realy want to put them to the test, try shooting a coon out to the others without handling the dog thats split. If they can stay hooked after hearing the shot and the dogs fighting a coon, or enough squalling to think theres a coon on the ground, there pressure proof in my book.

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quote:
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Seems like there all different. Some have an easier time when they can see the dogs there split from, some cant take it when its that close. Some can stick with dogs tracking, but cant stand it if another dogs trees. Some dont mind it if everyones treed, but cant stand another dog tracking within hearing.


Either way, there either pressure proof or there not in my book. The good ones dont give a darn what everyone else is doing.


If you realy want to put them to the test, try shooting a coon out to the others without handling the dog thats split. If they can stay hooked after hearing the shot and the dogs fighting a coon, or enough squalling to think theres a coon on the ground, there pressure proof in my book.




and if he does that to that 8 month old i will beat him with the gun he shot the coon with

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I never been able to tell any difference. Either they stay or they don't. If they are a pressure treedog, they stay no matter.


I've seen this alot also. Seems to happen more often if the old dog is alittle grouchy.

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Seems like there all different. Some have an easier time when they can see the dogs there split from, some cant take it when its that close. Some can stick with dogs tracking, but cant stand it if another dogs trees. Some dont mind it if everyones treed, but cant stand another dog tracking within hearing.


Either way, there either pressure proof or there not in my book. The good ones dont give a darn what everyone else is doing.


If you realy want to put them to the test, try shooting a coon out to the others without handling the dog thats split. If they can stay hooked after hearing the shot and the dogs fighting a coon, or enough squalling to think theres a coon on the ground, there pressure proof in my book.

yup thats what i was thinking

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I have one thats pressure proof.... Dont matter if its 10 feet or 2 miles... I've shot coons to dogs treed a couple hundred yards away and she didnt move.. Thats about as pressure proof as they get I recken. Which I dont know if she would move or not if I shot a coon out at 30 or 40 yards from her. I've never had a chance to do that.So I dont know if she would pull or not!!! She sure dont have big ears lol.....

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I have one thats pressure proof.... Dont matter if its 10 feet or 2 miles... I've shot coons to dogs treed a couple hundred yards away and she didnt move.. Thats about as pressure proof as they get I recken. Which I dont know if she would move or not if I shot a coon out at 30 or 40 yards from her. I've never had a chance to do that.So I dont know if she would pull or not!!! She sure dont have big ears lol.....


Thats the right kind.

And Jesse, I agree with ya. I was talking more about older dogs.

We shot one out to Dickersons Jet dog and Ferrari's Dolly pup last year with Loose treed close enough we could hear him.....a quarter or so. With a hand gun. He was still treed after all that. I think Baker hit it in the foot, that thing squalled like the devil had ahold of him and fought like the devil himself.

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I have seen young pups make a jelousy tree a short distance from the old dog because they want to be treed but don't want to share or cover.



I've seen old dogs do that too.

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i had my ol mutt stay treed when rest of cast caught a coon on the ground-- i was pretty proud of that--
the dog just NEVER left a tree-


one night it was raining and seemd to be coon out everywhere
she ran and treed over and over -- left bout as fast as she treed- --
lol she never did that again the rest of her life


never say never ----

to answer your question --ive seen pups and dogs too , hold pressure when hunted with dogs they knew and not with strange dogs , ten yards may be close enuff that its almost like treeing on same tree--

not saying thats why your pup did .just seen it with some of my mutts that werent pressure tree dogs -you will probably know real soon --it sure isnt a bad thing especially for an 8 month old --

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I think they're all different, every one of them. I have a dog right now that, I'm still not sure if it's pressure proof or independence or a lot of both. He's 2 years old but,..has never left a tree. When other dogs tree he doesn't like to be with them, he always tries to go find his own. Often times he doesn't open when on the same track with other dogs. he definatly hunts much better when hunted alone. Completely different when he's run by himself. Could be independence, could be pressure proof, could be dog shyness too (he's kind if a soft dog that lives to please me). Either way I'd be very surprised if he left a tree once he's settled in, to go to other dogs running a track or treed somewhere. The first time I hunted him with other dogs, he was cast with 2 others. The 2 others treed a coon, and he treed closer to us about 100 yards or so from the others. He never left his tree, and they never left theirs. Both clearly had the coon sitting up above...and absolutley could hear eachother. I was some proud that night that he didn't budge. So I guess a dog can be "pressure proof", independent, dog shy, or a varying mix of each. As you can see I'm still trying to learn what to call it lol.

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what breed does everybody think in general holds pressure the best? or is there a difference?

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I doubt breed has anything to do with it. It's the breeding, not the breed.

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