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Heres a poll to get some folks opinions. What is the worst tracking or most inaccurate treeing line of walker dogs you have seen???????????????? Remember folks, I'm asking which line trees the hardest, or barks the loudest, or even runs the track the fastest neccessarily or is the quickest to tree. I'm just talking tree for tree and turnout for turnout the most INACCURATE bloodline overall. Thanks guys.

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I say every walker dog is inaccurate. Thats just cause I like redbones. However I will say that hunt for hunt by the records, most World Nite Champions are walker dogs. And I don't think the books lie. SO obviously there is some pretty accurate TW's.

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Originally posted by GOBRedbones
I say every walker dog is inaccurate. Thats just cause I like redbones.

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hey elvis, at least the man was Honest about his feelings. I feel like 9 out of 10 walker dogs of certain particular bloodlines are inaccurate. However, I have came to learn that if you can find a walker dog that has some brains and nose then you really have something. Hopefully thats what I'm gonna get with this next puppy I'm gonna try from Joe. I got a good feeling about this one.

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Sheepster said:
at least the man was Honest about his feelings


Thank you Sheepster. I meant no harm. I really didn't say anything bad about TW's. I just gave my opinion and also gave the TW breed a praise.

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Well I really dont know which one is.Also I've hunted with lots of different breeds.I've seen many inacurrate dogs in all breeds!It aint just the walker dogs!!!!!!!All of em are bred to tree nowadays!

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I say every walker dog is inaccurate. Thats just cause I like redbones. However I will say that hunt for hunt by the records, most World Nite Champions are walker dogs. And I don't think the books lie. SO obviously there is some pretty accurate TW's.

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One of the MOST ACCURATE dogs I have ever seen is a Walker. He may miss one ever once in awhile but not often enough to even take notice. Dog is Dual Grand Ch. Lippers Stylish Rank.
If a dog dont miss every now and then, he probably isnt getting treed quick enough to suite me( I am talking young dogs under 3 years)

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I HAD A CLOVER BRED DOG ONCE THAT WOULD TREE ON 1 TREE WITH THE MEAT AND THE NEXT BE SLICK AS A PIN.YOU NEVER KNEW WHAT YOU WHERE GOING TO SEE WITH HIM BUT HE WASNT TO ONE EXTREME TO THE NEXT IT WAS LIKE GET ONE ,MISS ONE.HE WAS CONSISTANT IN THAT SENSE,LOL

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Years ago I handled a dog in the hunts for a guy by the name of Don Strubberg. Alot of you fellows might remember him from way back in the hunts. He has been breeding, raising and campaigning his line of dogs since way back in the 60's. One of the dogs I handled for him and finished into a dual gr. was a dog by the name of Hardwwod Drifter. This dog to this day is my measuring stick to compare other dogs to. The most accurate dog that ever laid a foot in the woods --bar none! When he treed he had the meat and it didnt matter what the other dogs were doing.Would give my left arm for him today! The most balanced,track driving ,go hunting stay put pressure tree dog I've ever hunted.

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Grnite Hicks Hardwood Hammer was/is deadly accurate when he starts a choppin load the gun because he's got the coon


but i dont think the inaccuracy of a breed can be blamed on one dog i think alot of it is where a trainer did not correct where correcting was needed though i still believe that 60% of it is genetics the other 40% is of trainer error wether known or not it just seems impossible to me to blame O N E dog for inaccuracy in a breed its a collection from the Gene Pool there may/probally needs to be more selective breeding in the walkers this is JMO

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I agree on the "selection" thing there gumswamp. I think more breeders need to understand that there is more to a dog than just how fast he chops on a tree and how loud he is and how good looking the dog is. MUCH MORE. Just my opinion.

Hey Gumswamp, by the way, found yer dogs yet????????

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nope from what weve gathered we believe they were picked up ...the person that took my dogs better pray to god that i dont find them because their gonna be seeing the world from a diffrent point of view when their laying in the hospital

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did they have tracking collars on???? Have you recovered them??????

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yep tracking collars on both and one had a shock collar on we cant track the collars nope we havnt even found the collars were gonna look some more today they may have drown in the river but they were heading the complete opposite direction of it they were tracking onto some plant land they were ona coon then they just went cross country i dont know if they jumped a deer or what but the've never ran a deer nor messed with a possum but they will mess with a dilla every once in awhile so i have no idea what they were doing unless they jumped a red hot coon then they ran him and shut up and i havnt been able to find them since ive rode that plant all i can and all around

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I HAD A CLOVER BRED DOG ONCE THAT WOULD TREE ON 1 TREE WITH THE MEAT AND THE NEXT BE SLICK AS A PIN.YOU NEVER KNEW WHAT YOU WHERE GOING TO SEE WITH HIM BUT HE WASNT TO ONE EXTREME TO THE NEXT IT WAS LIKE GET ONE ,MISS ONE.HE WAS CONSISTANT IN THAT SENSE,LOL

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I couldent agree more Joe.

Its a stupid poll that proved a stupid point...

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I wanted to vote for two of them, but I couldn't. I would have to go with the Yadkin Tar Rattler dogs and Rat Attack dogs. I know there are some very nice ones out there out of them, but for the most part they like to tree a little much for me. Just my opinion.

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Arent most of these so called lines related? Rat out of Sackett Jr., Nailor out of Rattler. Lipper in Nailor and Whitey.

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Arent most of these so called lines related? Rat out of Sackett Jr., Nailor out of Rattler. Lipper in Nailor and Whitey.

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I guess I'm doomed!I got pup here thats got the top 3 votes on his papers.I guess I'll just have to hunt him in the summer time.

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THE DOG I HAD WAS A NT CH OFF CLOVER X NT CH SACKETT JR FEMALE.THE ONLY REASON I EVEN FED THE DOG IS BECAUSE HE WOULD TREE A COON.THE POLL WAS ABOUT ACCURACY AND HE WAS THE MOST INACCURATE DOG THAT I HAVE EVER OWNED.HE GOT ON MY NERVES SO I SOLD HIM.IF I CANT SEE MEAT IN THE TREE AT LEAST 80% OF THE TIME ,THEY WILL NOT MAKE IT HERE.I AM SORRY IF I HAVE OFFENDED YOU OAKRIDGE AND I DO UNDERSTAND THE FACT THAT I HAVE NOT STUDIED THE CROSSES THAT WORK WELL ON THE WHITEY DOGS AS I AM SURE THAT YOU HAVE. GOOD LUCK WITH YOUR LINES FOR YEARS TO COME.

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I would get rid of a dog if it had both sacket and nailor. it might be a good pop up, corn field machine, if it has to hunt on out? Need some balance thrown in there.

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THE DOG I HAD WAS A NT CH OFF CLOVER X NT CH SACKETT JR FEMALE.THE ONLY REASON I EVEN FED THE DOG IS BECAUSE HE WOULD TREE A COON.THE POLL WAS ABOUT ACCURACY AND HE WAS THE MOST INACCURATE DOG THAT I HAVE EVER OWNED.HE GOT ON MY NERVES SO I SOLD HIM.IF I CANT SEE MEAT IN THE TREE AT LEAST 80% OF THE TIME ,THEY WILL NOT MAKE IT HERE.I AM SORRY IF I HAVE OFFENDED YOU OAKRIDGE AND I DO UNDERSTAND THE FACT THAT I HAVE NOT STUDIED THE CROSSES THAT WORK WELL ON THE WHITEY DOGS AS I AM SURE THAT YOU HAVE. GOOD LUCK WITH YOUR LINES FOR YEARS TO COME.

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I have hunted with both accurate and inaccurate hounds off every stud listed and many more that are not listed.

When evaluating stud dogs and their reproducing abilities, many times folks forget two HUGE points:
#1 Every litter has a momma, think about it
#2 The trainers of the pups sired by the stud dog in question have a huge impact on the finished product if it is ever finished at all

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