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JCGordon
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Cures for Sarcoptic Mange or "Scabies"??

Does anybody know a good treatment for this? One of my hounds has got it on the top back of his neck, I'm thinking he picked it up from a buddies leash, that's where he's loosing his hair. Don't see any signs of it on his nose, lips, or ears. Any help would be greatly appreciated. I have researched this on the net and I don't believe it is genetic, plus my Rottweiler had it when she was about a year old. Looks the same.

Like I said, I would appreciate any help on this.

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I just asked my vet about mange since I started grooming dogs... they told me to get rid of it they need to be on meds and get dipped this is the only way to for sure be gone of it. Good Luck. If you hear of any other ways let me know too. Thanks. Sandi

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JCGordon
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I ran across some literature about Ivermectin or "Ivomec" working to cure scabies too. Anyone else tried this?

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1/2 cc of Ivomec a day for 30 days.

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100 percent cure

I took back a Plott from someone - she was HAIRLESS and covered with sores & scabs from Sarcoptic mange. My Vet prescribed 1/2 cc per 55 lbs. of dog given orally for 30 days. She is now sleek and shiny with no problems.

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Old Remedy- burnt oil

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masterd1976. Gave you the right answer.

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JCGordon
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thanks y'all.. I was worried about him, it's only a spot about the size of a quarter, but you all know how that stuff spreads.

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Sarcoptic mange

If it is on the back of the neck then it is every where the dog has been, along with being all over the dog. Confine the dog to one area, that has been sterilized after you start the dog on ivermectin and bathed with permethrin. Bath that dog twice a week for two weeks with permethrin, while cleaning the pen out with bleach before putting the dog back in the pen. Clean everything that dog has come in contact with, with bleach. Do not hunt the dog or get anything else contaminated. Also, after cleaning the dog and pen, clean yourself. I went and bought some of those paper coveralls and wore when I was dealing with the problem. I bought a dog that looked healthy carried her home and low and behold, after two weeks all 6 dogs were infected. Try bathing 6 full grown hounds twice a week and cleaning there pens and houses. I wish you the best of luck.

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BRYAN J
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Lots of reading

Hope this isn't to much reading. I had a pup get red mange and I ended up putting her down after she lost all her hair. Was winter. I spent about $350 in vet treatments. Special shampoos etc. Won't ever do that agin. Besides I was told by the vet even if she got rid of it she would more then likely be a carrier of it and would be in her pups!

Introduction
Mangy mutt! is a curse uttered when Fido steals the roast or eats the garage door, or it's a sad lament over the condition of a dog whose skin is a mess. Kids are cautioned not to touch a mangy dog for fear that the mange will ooze from the hapless pooch to the child and cause his skin to rot and his hair to fall out.

These myths about mange reach gigantic proportions causing fear to strike in the hearts of dog owners. Mange? Not my dog!

But it could well be your dog.

Mange comes in three varieties: Demodectic, Cheyletiella and Sarcoptic. It is caused by different species of mites, tiny eight-legged critters related to spiders.


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Demodectic Mange
Demodectic mange is caused by Demodex canis, a tiny mite that cannot be seen without the aid of a microscope. This mange strikes puppies from three to 12 months old.

The demodex mite is commonly present in the pores of puppy skin and usually does not cause symptoms, and it not at all certain what causes them to activate. The mites can produce a substance that lowers the dog's resistance to them and make use of an opportunity to multiply.

It's also possible that some lines of purebred dogs carry lowered resistance to the mites, and that stress can trigger an active infestation. In any case, demodectic mange symptoms include thinning of the hair around the eyes and mouth and on the front legs that evolves into patches of hair loss approximately one inch in diameter. This mange may correct itself within three months or may require treatment.

However, demodectic mange can also begin as a localized infestation and develop into a generalized case with multiple hair-loss sites on the dog's head, legs, and body. This is a far more serious condition and requires veterinary attention. The dog's skin is sore, crusty, and oozing; the hair follicles are clogged with mites and debris. Treatment is extended and requires bathing in medicated shampoo and application of an insecticide to kill the mites.


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Cheyletiella mange
Cheyletiella mange is also known as walking dandruff. It affects puppies and is caused by a large reddish mite that can be seen under a magnifying glass. This mange is identified by the dandruff dusting that occurs over the dog's head, neck, and back.

Walking dandruff is highly contagious but short-lived. It causes mild itching. The mite that causes the mange dies a short time after leaving the host.


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Sarcoptic mange
Sarcoptic mange, also known as scabies, is caused by a microscopic mite. The female mite causes the characteristic intense itching as they burrow under the skin to lay their eggs. The eggs hatch in a few days, develop into adults, and begin laying their own eggs in less than three weeks.

Dogs with scabies dig and bite at themselves with great ferocity. Their skin reacts with oozing sores, and secondary infection may set in, requiring treatment with an antibiotic in addition to treatment for the mites. Unfortunately, the sarcoptic mange mite can be difficult to find in skin scrapings, and unless the veterinarian parts the hair and carefully examines the bare skin for the characteristic pin-point bite marks, diagnosis is difficult. Furthermore, the presence of a secondary skin infection can hamper the search for the mite bite marks.

Telltale signs of sarcoptic mange are crusty ear tips, fierce itching, and hair loss, particularly on the ears, elbows, legs, and face in the early stages. Later on, the hair loss spreads throughout the body.

Sarcoptic mange is contagious to canines and humans. If the dogs share sleeping places or if the infected dog sleeps on beds or furniture, everyone will begin scratching. It is not unheard of for the family dog to infest the kids, the kids to infest their playmates, and the playmates to infest their pets and parents with scabies. Fortunately scabies in humans is self-limiting, that is the mite can burrow under the skin and cause itching, but cannot complete its life cycle on humans and dies within a few weeks.

Veterinarians now use Ivermectin in two doses, two weeks apart, to kill the mites. They may also prescribe steroids for short-term use to relieve the itching until the mites begin to die off and give the dog some relief. Itching usually begins to subside within a few days of the first dose of Ivermectin.

Canine skin damaged by sarcoptic mange and secondary skin infections can take weeks or months to recover, depending on the scope of the problems. Frequent medicated baths may be necessary to soothe irritated skin.

Mange damage can mimic that caused by other skin conditions, including autoimmune diseases, bacterial infections secondary to flea allergies, and contact dermatitis, making it impossible for the pet owner to diagnose with any success. If your dog suffers from irritated, itchy skin, make an appointment with the veterinarian. Early diagnosis of any of these problems will give you a head start on a cure and will be less uncomfortable for the dog and your wallet.

Norma Bennett Woolf

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Demodectic Mange
IT IS VERY IMPORTANT THAT DOGS WITH A HISTORY OF GENERALIZED DEMODECTIC MANGE NOT BE BRED AS THERE IS A HEREDITARY COMPONENT TO THE ...
http://www.marvistavet.com/html/bod...ctic_mange.html

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Sorry for more reading but its important to know.

Sarcoptic Mange in Dogs
Sarcoptic mange can infect all ages and breeds of dogs. While it prefers to live on dogs, this particular mite will also infect cats, humans, ...
http://www.peteducation.com/article...p;articleid=764

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no I really hope this is helpful to all that read it. He must've caught it from a coon fight last week, we shot one out that had a "less than perfect" coat. Started loosing his hair a couple of days later right under his collar where the lead rubs the back of his neck. I havn't noticed any crusty hair on his ears or nose, nor has any of the other dogs contracted it, or at least I havn't heard yet. Only time will tell. Started him on a half cc of Ivermectin last night. Cleaned and bleached his dog house and kennel. Going to clean his doghouse and change his bedding again today. When should I give the next dose of Ivermectin?

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Icchthamol works well as well in addition to the ivomec. It is a coal tar based ointment that many of the older folks may remember. Slather it directly on the spot, and it will help. It is nasty stinky black stuff that stains though, so don't get it on your clothes.

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So I broke down and took him on to the vet, he was a week away from needing his Rabies Vacc. and due a good physical anyway. The Vet told me it could possible be Scabies but they did a skin scrape, and it didn't show any Sarcoptic Mites, but then again he told me they usually don't show up anyway. Sent me home with some monthly wormer and some shampoo.....which is just wonderful cuz it's barely been above 40 for the past few days!!!!!LOL!! Told me to watch it close and if it get's worse after 7 days of the shampoo treatment to bring him back.

I'm hoping this is the end of it all. I'm just counting my blessings I got out of the Vet's office for less than a GRAND this time!!!!!LOL!!!

Thanks for all the help you all.

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well, that is great news. i did not think it looked like mange but you cant tell by looking at it you have to have it scraped and put under a micro . i always thought mange had a redish tint to it. if im wrong will some one let me know

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