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walkerkid887
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Registered: Aug 2006
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given up hope

i have 14 month old female, shell run and tree her own coon and if its a cold track shell try to work it but still hasnt had much luck at it, but what her biggest problem is is that she wants to rune fox, deer, cyotes, skunks, etc. you name it shes tried to run it and catch it we let her loos around the house the other night and she struck and next we saw her she was in the next county walking in someones pastuer. i dont no but i dont think that was a coon. i need some advise on what to do.

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BUY A G2 TRI TRONICS, IF THAT DONT WORK, GET ANOTHER DOG,

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Jay Bird 76
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I'm also new to coon hunting. But, I have trained rabbit dogs 15 years and I can tell you that I will no longer train dogs with no shock collar. I've only had 1 dog not run deer before a shock collar taught it a lesson. I've never had a dog that couldn't be broken off trash, so try to save a little money and get you a set. Even if it has to be a cheap set, that will work for breaking off trash. Good luck.

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Jared Lawrason
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Also buy a book that teaches you how to use a shock collar. Like Vickie Lamb's book.

Good luck with your dog it sounds like you have a good one once it gets straightened out.

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englishhandler
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i bought the new tri tronics g-2 shock collar they work good have a tone button that just lets out a beep to the dog with shock and then has 6 different settings suspose to have a 2- mile range he struck and ran a deer onetime and haven't had any trouble with him since. and let me tell you they will feel it with that g-2 it hits them. the best part is no batteries it comes with a charge so just plug it in for a little while and it's good to go. best of luck with you and your dog

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aubrey c morris
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I'm not trying to be mean but we had a dog just like that a few years ago it is hard to break a dog of of evrey thing at once if you shock it on fox,deer,coyote,opussum,rabbit then it will get idea that what ever it runs it will get hit after awhile it want do nothing but hang around your feet. best thing to do is dispose of it which ever way you see fit and get a new one and if someone sold you that hound with that problem then shame on them

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Jared Lawrason
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I'm not trying to be mean but we had a dog just like that a few years ago it is hard to break a dog of of evrey thing at once if you shock it on fox,deer,coyote,opussum,rabbit then it will get idea that what ever it runs it will get hit after awhile it want do nothing but hang around your feet. best thing to do is dispose of it which ever way you see fit and get a new one and if someone sold you that hound with that problem then shame on them


Don't do this. If you want to get rid of it I will take the dog!

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Philip
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thats what you get when they run loose like that, then you have to get them off the other stuff. may not have the best nose either, but may learn how to use what she has.

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aubrey c morris
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I am not talking about killing the dog what i mean is give it away to somebody or animal shelter or keep as a yard dog

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I am not talking about killing the dog what i mean is give it away to somebody or animal shelter or keep as a yard dog


I wasn't trying to acuse you of saying he should kill the dog. The best dog I have had was just like this one at that age.

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Floyd Evans
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Good luck

Like they said get you a shocking system , the dog is sure enough gamey that if you can break it ,the dog might be a good one the main thing is know your dog and what it is a running, fast game is not that hard to tell what they are a doing , fox can be tricky but ive found alot of times on junk a dog will throw a different bark, if that is the case that might help you some.
I dont know if that will help you but good luck
Also hunt the dog with a finished BROKE hound, that hound will help tell on the other one.

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J.R. Heiny
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hi ,

i am posting this post because before you start shocking this dog. theres other things to try first and one thing you can only address one problem at a time with a dog just like you would with a child. my advice to you would be take this dog hunting and the dog runs off game the next night have a hunting buddy pick you up and go hunting with him and make sure this dog knows that you are going with a nother dog that night and leaving her at home. the point of this is keeping her at home the next night gives her time to think of what she done wrong and right the night before just like grounding or putting a kid in time out while watching the other kids play they can't stand that same with dogs they can't stand to see another dog and thier owner go hunting with out them. if this dog runs the same game again the third night after being left at home then use a shocking collare. and also get out in the back yard lay down some fox , deer , rabbit , and coon scent when this dog strikes on the off sent give the dog a level 4 shock and when the dog strikes the coon sent reward that dog with praise and give the dog some kind of treat weather it's a dog biscuit to scraps at meal time. and remimber you can only adress on problem at a time and also training a hound is very frustrateing theres problems that pop up all the time and the way to train them is think of them as being a child correct them the first time with a very light punishment and each time you repeat the problem make the punishments harsher and when you see what punishment gets thier attenion you can just about use that punishment every time they do something wrong that requirers a harsh punishment.

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G L Weller
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Given up hope

If your dog will run, tree and stay treed you have no problems to worry about. All you need to do is break the dog or at least slow her down. Some of the best dogs that ever lived were junky as heck at 14 months old this is not uncommon. Sounds to me like you have a good prospect that just needs some training. If she runs to catch and will stay treed you have the makings of a coon-treeing machine. Don’t give up because she has desire. You have to show her that you want her to run coon only. This may take some time and will surely take a lot of work on your part. But don’t try to break her off everything at once. One thing at a time until all have been eliminated and all the while keep putting coon on her at least two a week. She’ll come along for ya in time. As long as she’s treeing coon and staying treed until you get to her you can work with her.

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quote:
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I'm not trying to be mean but we had a dog just like that a few years ago it is hard to break a dog of of evrey thing at once if you shock it on fox,deer,coyote,opussum,rabbit then it will get idea that what ever it runs it will get hit after awhile it want do nothing but hang around your feet. best thing to do is dispose of it which ever way you see fit and get a new one and if someone sold you that hound with that problem then shame on them


that is the worst advise i have heard-- by no means do this-- she is young and some young dogs start out trashy and get over it -- then their miond is only on coon

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Floyd Evans
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Good advice

That sounds pretty good, for a pup that doesnt know anything but at his pups state , i think holding back like that the dog will probably still run off , because it sounds to me like he isnt for sure what he is supposed to run , thats where you throw in dragging tracks for him, but you are definetly right, that a person should try other means first.

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