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Last weekend at a UKC hunt in Leiters Ford, Indiana ole Jay Hyde cussed a little girl on a cast. The club barred the girls father when he threatened Jay back at the club when she came back and cried to the father. Who wouldnt do this if someone cussed there 11 year old girl on her first hunt? This guy is a good guy too just starting in the hunts. Jay Hyde has caused trouble for years and UKC knows this. UKC needs to step up and solve the real problem.

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Last weekend at a UKC hunt in Leiters Ford, Indiana ole Jay Hyde cussed a little girl on a cast. The club barred the girls father when he threatened Jay back at the club when she came back and cried to the father. Who wouldnt do this if someone cussed there 11 year old girl on her first hunt? This guy is a good guy too just starting in the hunts. Jay Hyde has caused trouble for years and UKC knows this. UKC needs to step up and solve the real problem.

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Dave,

Are you back to campaining a dog in UKC? Did they have a cast of GR NTs there?

Who ended up winning over there......??

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ARE YOU SERIOUS? UKC DID NOTHING ABOUT IT TO BOOT? SEE THIS IS A REAL PROBLEM AND I SERIOUSLY DOUBT UKC WILL DO ANYTHING WHICH IS TOO BAD. SEEMS TO ME UKC IS ALLOWING MORE THEN JUST ONE OF OUR YOUTH HUNTERS TO BE MISTREATED AT THE HUNTS. MUST BE TRYING TO GET THEM READY FOR THE WORLD HUNT BY EDUCATING THEM EARLY

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Dave,

Are you back to campaining a dog in UKC? Did they have a cast of GR NTs there?

Who ended up winning over there......??

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Dave,

Not sticking up for anyone, not saying it did not happen....

But unless I saw it with my own eyes...not sure I would be naming names, and putting it out here for everyone to read.

Simple fact is that if there is more to the story than you heard, or what you have typed here is not 100% correct, it amounts to slander...

I don't know that I would want to be involved in a slander suit if I were you......not with this crowd anyway!

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i dont beleive it for a minute.
ill call jay and get the other side of this story.

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Maybe this is just too severe but I'm thinking maybe UKC should consider barring anyone who bitchs about getting screwed by a handler and doesn't file a misconduct complaint. We would either see alot less misconduct or a lot less bitch'in.
Dave, that situation is a real shame, if Lierters told Jay he is no longer welcome, at least they can say they did their part.

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Joe , I see what your saying but if noone says anything than it will keep happening. Im not afraid of what I say because Ill stand up for what is right regardless of the outcome. Yes Jay has his side but Jay always has his side and its usually a lie.

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Last weekend at a UKC hunt in Leiters Ford, Indiana ole Jay Hyde cussed a little girl on a cast. The club barred the girls father when he threatened Jay back at the club when she came back and cried to the father. Who wouldnt do this if someone cussed there 11 year old girl on her first hunt? This guy is a good guy too just starting in the hunts. Jay Hyde has caused trouble for years and UKC knows this. UKC needs to step up and solve the real problem.

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Jim, not trying to be a smart alect but what would you have UKC do based on what you know for sure about the situation? Do you have any reason to believe UKC even knows about this situation other than what they read on this thread? And lastly, would you want them to investigate every accusation made on this message board?

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Jim, not trying to be a smart alect but what would you have UKC do based on what you know for sure about the situation? Do you have any reason to believe UKC even knows about this situation other than what they read on this thread? And lastly, would you want them to investigate every accusation made on this message board?

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Dave,

All I'm saying is that you can lose alot of money defending yourself in a slander suit.... Defense attornies are very expensive...

You could lose your house, your truck....defending yourself...even if you are right!

Just be very careful....

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well everyperson that seen it should be whipped with a cane fer not standin up fer the little girl a grown man cussin a little girl should be beat severly but everyone that witnessed it and did nothin should recieve worse cause everyone knows the young kids are the future of our wonderful sport

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this jay guy wouldnt have to worry about being barred cause he woulnt be able to walk for about 6 months maybe longer sad that ukc would let this happen but thats the new ukc dont care about much as long as the money is rolling in

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Hearsay is.... " The girl asked Jay to listen for her dog but the 5 was up on his tree and he said were not listening to your F *%#in dog were goin to this tree." Just hearsay though.

Your right Joe, like usuall. lol

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Well that is pretty bad, but the father should know better than letting an 11 year old girl go on a cast with a group of grown men and him not be present. Maybe I am just over protective or don't trust people but I sure wouldn't take the chance with my child with the people at this hunts in any registry.

But if this did happen the father should not get in trouble for defending his little girl. That is whats wrong in this country we are getting away from common sense and morals.

If nothing else the club should get rid of both individuals involved and be done with it. I mean if the father is wrong the other guy is most certainly wrong and can't justify cussing a little girl over something as stupid and a raccoon hunt. If he did it he needed to be beat with the dog lead.

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i had jay in a cast over the weekend and he was causing problems all night in the cast and at the end of the hunt talked the moh into scratchin me and another dog since he didnt strike our dogs in the first 3 barks even though the minute wasnt up. i would of won the cast with 725+ instead he won with maniac jr who didnt do anything all night with 275+. during the cast he did talk about getting this man barred as if he was proud of it but i dont blame that man for doing what he did i dont know anyone that would of been alright with jay treating there kid like that. i hope ukc does do something about jay because i have never heard of or been in a cast that has gone well with him in it.

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where were the other grown men on the cast that didnt stick up for a 11 year old girl???????????????

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