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Ruling?

Dogs just pulled off tree with a hound trailing struck in not barking after the tree's scored.

Do you start the 6 minutes and run it till it ends holding the other dogs on the cast or do you cut them loose before it barks?

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Thomas Johnson

Cut the dog loose and start the 6 on the dog that is struck in after walking back where it was last heard.

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U can do either, cut/holdM......
It's an option...that u can use after every scored tree.
Every situation will dictate what option u will exercise.

In that situation the only option you have is to cut the dogs. Not waiting on the six.

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Originally posted by Dogwhisper
U can do either, cut/holdM......
It's an option...that u can use after every scored tree.
Every situation will dictate what option u will exercise.

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Originally posted by jawscardodger
In that situation the only option you have is to cut the dogs. Not waiting on the six.

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Originally posted by AndyMiller
SO IF ANOTHER DOG THAT WAS SCORED AND IS CUT LOOSE AND OPENS ON TRACK ,,, DOES THAT BREAK THE6 ??? IF IT DOES WHAT STRIKE DOES THAT DOG GET IF THE DOG THAT THE 6 WAS APPLIED ,,SAY HE HAD 25 STRIKE,,, THANK YOU

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Originally posted by Redneck Mafia
No the option is to lead to another dogs tree. In this case there are no other dogs treed so you must re-cut after scoring. Under the new rules that went into effect Jan 1 you no longer wait until the dog struck opens or gets caught by it's time running on the strike.

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Thomas Johnson

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Originally posted by Tom Johnson
So under new rules I couldn't hold my hound for the duration of the 6 minutes knowing full well my hounds capabilities of breaking that 6 minutes. So standing there as a strategic to draw minus on the other hound in the cast isn't even an option anymore?

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From the coonhound advisor

Removing the Stipulation of Hearing a Dog Open Before Recasting
In the 2020 rule change, all but one scenario where a dog was leash locked unwillingly was removed from the rulebook. With the 2023 rule change, that last situation is being removed and there will no longer be a period of time where a dog is leash locked, without the handler agreeing
to do so. The rule that is being removed, is the stipulation in Rule 11(d) that read, after being scored, dog shall not be released until another dog struck in on track, or on tree, opens. In the 2023 verison of the Official Coonhound Rulebook, Rule 11(d) will read, after being scored, dog(s) may be released immediately or led a reasonable distance (judges’ decision) from scored tree before recasting. No need to run the 2-minute or 6-minute clocks on declared struck or treed dogs before recasting, just cut your hound loose (at the judge’s discretion of course).

Handlers will still retain the option to keep their scored hound on the leash if any other dog in the cast is declared treed. That is clarified in the 2nd and 3rd sentences of Rule 11(d) by saying, However, if another dog in cast is declared treed, handler(s) has the option to recast or keep scored dog on leash. Handlers opting to keep dog on leash may not recast dog until next opportunity arises (next tree is scored or dog leaves tree).
Same as it has always been, upon releasing the scored hound, it will be important to head to the last spot you heard other hounds in the cast that were declared struck or treed to run appropriate times. In the case of the recently released dog opening up and being struck, the judge needs to make it a priority to split the difference the best way possible to accurately judge all dogs in the cast that are declared struck.

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Originally posted by TN Quick Check
Yes it would brake the six and you would strike in for 25.

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