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Posted by Peterbilt379 on 07-17-2022 04:10 PM:

Putting the hunt back in a dog

I got a female in February. She was 13 months old, never started. Took her out her first time and when I cut her she went flying. 3rd night out she treed her first solo. Come to find out she was pregnant when I bought her so she had some mutt pups. I’ve hunted her 2 times since she had pups and both times she’s not hunted hardly at all. Like standing at my feet. How should I go about putting the hunt back in her. What she showed me early on in the year I really don’t wanna get rid of her. I’m hoping she can come back around but if I just turn her loose and sit in the truck she just lays around. I’ve tried switching her and everything. I need some advice.


Posted by DL NH on 07-17-2022 06:35 PM:

“Switching” a dog to get them to hunt is useless. You cannot put hunt into a dog that wasn’t “planted” there at conception. How long has it been since she weaned her pups. Have you done anything to her that has made her fear you when you have taken her hunting? If she interprets your actions and impatience as being a part of going hunting you’ve got an uphill battle ahead of you and may never get her to hunt out.

How does she act with another dog that hunts out? What happens if you just sit down and stay put after you cut her loose? If it was me I’d take her into an area where she has a good chance of striking a coon track within 200 yards or less. Cut her loose and sit down and wait. Give her as much as 30-45 mins. to hunt out away from you. If she hangs around and won’t hunt after 30-45 mins. Load her up, take her home and lay her up for a week.

During that week see if you can put out some feeders where coon are likely to find them. Place the feeders in an area where you can see coon tracks if they come into them. If you have positive evidence that coon are coming to them take her to within a hundred yards of the feeder and turn her loose. If you use a GPS tracking system you should be able to mark your feeder and watch her progress if she hunts out the area to the feeder.

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Posted by Peterbilt379 on 07-17-2022 07:06 PM:

Thank you for answering. It’s been about two months since she’s weaned. I have her time after she had the pups to just get weight back on. She’s been out twice since she’s weaned. Both times she’s just went and hunted a little bit then came back to me. Before she had the pups she was one of the best pups I’ve ever seen. Now I’m really close to shipping her. I bought her as a young dog to push in hunts because she’s bred really well and shown potential. I just need to figure out how to get the fire back in her


Posted by DL NH on 07-17-2022 08:06 PM:

If she was as good as you say she was prior to whelping this litter she’d be worth a visit to the vet and see if there’s anything going on that you’re unaware of. Females that have just whelped will often need to be wormed after whelping too and the vet likely would recommend you have her checked. Most females will have round worms after whelping. Their immune systems are taxed pretty heavily through the pregnancy and while nursing.

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Posted by Bill(Chew) on 07-18-2022 04:06 PM:

Peterbilt379, you said that she hunter out a little and came back in? when she comes back in load her up and move, even if it is only 100 yards. Turn her out where she should hit a good track very quickly. I'd bet that if you get her on a good track she will perk back up.

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Posted by Peterbilt379 on 07-18-2022 05:16 PM:

Thank you for the advice. Where I’m at in Swva sometimes it’s hard to get a good track. I may get one trapped and turn it loose somewhere she has no idea it’s there.


Posted by Dave Richards on 07-19-2022 01:26 AM:

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Try taking her with another dog that hunts good, do this a few times until you get her interested in hunting. After she goes back to hunting good, you can hunt her by herself. Dave

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Posted by A House Cat on 07-22-2022 09:20 AM:

Wanna sell her?

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Posted by shadinc on 07-22-2022 04:24 PM:

If she was mine I would just hunt her and be patient. I've seen a few good hunting dogs that would hang around after being laid up a while. There's a reason why big-time competition hunters hunt almost every night.

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Posted by Leatherwood on 07-22-2022 06:03 PM:

Hey if you're pretty close to me in SWVA holler at me and you can come hunt with me. Another dog might help her some.


Posted by Peterbilt379 on 07-22-2022 07:31 PM:

What’s your name? I’ll look you up on Facebook. I’m always down for new hunting partners. I have an older Black and Tan I’ve been hunting her with. Hopefully she will come around


Posted by Reuben on 07-24-2022 03:06 PM:

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Originally posted by DL NH
“Switching” a dog to get them to hunt is useless. You cannot put hunt into a dog that wasn’t “planted” there at conception. How long has it been since she weaned her pups. Have you done anything to her that has made her fear you when you have taken her hunting? If she interprets your actions and impatience as being a part of going hunting you’ve got an uphill battle ahead of you and may never get her to hunt out.




Excellent advice…

Training sessions and hunting with the dog needs to be a pleasant experience…the pup needs to know the woods is a pleasant and fun place and it must know that the game it chases and catches is in the woods…that should be part of laying the foundation and needs to be understood by the pup before any disciplinary actions take place…

Correcting…it is best if the pup does not fear correction…it just means that we are doing a better job performing corrections when needed if it doesn’t fear correction…

I’ve always believed I was a better dog trainer as a young kid hunting alone with my dogs…my dogs were all mutts or crosses of unknown breeding but we could guess by what they looked like…

My dogs only ran hot tracks or mostly what we jumped, they did use their noses…I also envisioned myself as the alpha in the pack…I got excited every time we chased, caught or fought some sort of wild game…I whooped, hollered or yipped as we chased and caught game…even jumped in and out on coiled snakes…at the right moment the lurcher dog would catch the snake and sling guts…my dogs never got bit doing this…but I never let them take on snakes bc bigger than 3.5 feet or so…

In my opinion the reason I could get most anything I wanted from my dogs was due to my excitement and enthusiasm I felt during our excursions, which was every opportunity we had, sometimes twice in one day…

When someone came along I kept it toned down on account I had to act more like a human…during those times my dogs didn’t hunt as well…
Bottom line…the higher the enthusiasm the better the performance…a dog can read emotions better than we can…

As a grown up I cannot reach the levels of excitement I could reach as a kid…

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Posted by shadinc on 07-24-2022 03:21 PM:

Reuben, that last sentence says a lot. Age definitely dampens enthusiasm.

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Posted by Dave Richards on 07-27-2022 05:44 AM:

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Rueben, I really wish that I could have tagged along on some of your hunts in your younger days. I love that kind of excitement, boy what I would give to have that level of excitement today. Age and experience sure robs us of those early days when we were green as grass and happy with every little success we had. I call it young and dumb, but what fun it was, priceless. Dave

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Posted by Triple K Kennel on 07-27-2022 12:30 PM:

Go Hunting

First of all switching is NOT the fix for her, however Patience is.
She was young when you got her & Bred to top it off. Forget about putting her with another Dog & take her right by herself. When she comes back to you walk her right back in the direction she just came from. If you have a Cornfield anywhere just walk her in it along the edge of the Corn & Woods if you have them like that.....she is sure to hit a hot track. She has to Trust you & switching her gets you nowhere at this point with her.
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