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before GPS trackers- Do you think alot of hounds didn't make it because you could not find them when they were treeing. I mean that a hound who was doing great , ends up not being a good tree dog. Like once he starts ranging out , he gets out of hearing and no reward because you can not find him or can not hear him.

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I can honestly say in the years that I had coonhounds I never went off and left one treed because I couldn’t get to it. Had a few nights that it took a couple hours to get to them. But never knowingly left one treed.

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Originally posted by DL NH
I can honestly say in the years that I had coonhounds I never went off and left one treed because I couldn’t get to it. Had a few nights that it took a couple hours to get to them. But never knowingly left one treed.

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Hounds hunted like hounds—-

They open on a cold track and hunted from the time they were cut loose. If they didn’t fine a track they would check back in. They treed until you got to them and it was usually within a half to one mile from the truck and if you hunted more then one they would be together at the tree.

None of this BS of taking off like a rocket, no reverse, always need to be alone and have to be “toned” to come back.

True meaning of the good old days👍

But with the crap that some are posting on YouTube and Facebook—this sport of hound hunting has a lot bigger problem!!!

Just glad I am old and got to enjoy it to the fullest😉

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I second what old timer said. You and the dogs hunted together. It was totally different than how I hunt now. I actually joked last night with a guy that's kind of a sad commentary on the sport. As I watched a dog struggling to run a track. I told him all a coon has to do to fool this dog is leave a track.

Without GPS with the dogs today is not the reward. It is not finding them and today these dogs sure can't find you. The homing instinct is gone. Rewarding a dog with a coon is not of the importance that many feel it is. I run deer hounds also. Most of them have never seen a deer.

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Originally posted by OLD TIMER
They open on a cold track and hunted from the time they were cut loose. If they didn’t fine a track they would check back in. They treed until you got to them and it was usually within a half to one mile from the truck and if you hunted more then one they would be together at the tree.

None of this BS of taking off like a rocket, no reverse, always need to be alone and have to be “toned” to come back.

True meaning of the good old days👍

But with the crap that some are posting on YouTube and Facebook—this sport of hound hunting has a lot bigger problem!!!

Just glad I am old and got to enjoy it to the fullest😉

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I hunted dogs with no reverse back then and lost them on a regular basis. Drove around, walked to the top of the hills and all that stuff. Threw the coat out and picked them up the next day alot. They stayed treed right or wrong and it didn't make any difference if they got the coon for the reward. Most of that reward is in our mind. There reward is getting to go hunting and being left out there didn't phase them a bit.
No this was not the good ol days
It was a terrible waste of time and was like work.

Today is the good ol days
I have not left a dog in the woods for many years. I really enjoy the walking a GPS saves

Facebook sport downfall

Caged and hangup coon, show me your socks you actually wore out hunting.
Deer chases the worst back in the day, today they call it deep and alone.

We had better “hound men”, back then too

Oh that’s right, it’s 2022 so please change that to hound person and if I should ever screw up and say coon hunter or hunting, hit the freakin tone button and it should change it to RACCOON.

Anyway, “we” spent more time with our hounds years ago. If you had kids they weren’t in everything like today and of course there wasn’t as much for them to pick from. I look at some of my nephews and there is no way they could ever enjoy a hound like I did. Their 3 and 4 year olds are in swimming, dance, hockey, baseball and gymnastics. Then on the weekend they have to go shopping or to the park. Not saying that’s bad, just a total different world.

Were we smarter? Not sure, but I learnt how to know what was happening by their voice and from older hunters. Not by looking at some little screen and then make up excuses for the dog anyway😂

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“Reward” is over rated.
Dogs are bred to do what they do naturally without fur in the mouth. Just a little praise is good enough imo. You ask me why? Think about this.
A bloodhound is trained to track human scent. Do you feed them a human leg when they did good lol?

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Youd have to be a old old timer to have hunted before track collars.If your much older than me then your almost dead.ha.Beep beeps were around long before gps.I started hunting in the mid 70s.I left dogs sometimes.Im sure they were treed somewhere.Back then people didnt hurt hunting dogs.A few did dissapear forever tho.Found most of em ok.Didnt notice it hurting them treeing like they should next time i go hunting.I think it was mid 80s when i got a track outfit..Never left a hound again.Found a couple dead on a road tho.Dogs dont need every coon they tree but they do need some.Ha.They like it.

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“Reward” is over rated.

Dogs are bred to do what they do naturally without fur in the mouth. Just a little praise is good enough imo. You ask me why?

Think about this. A bloodhound is trained to track human scent. Do you feed them a human leg when they did good lol?

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About 72 0r 73 my brother and I hunted a lot together. He had a dog that was I'm guessing half walker / half blue tick. Of course hides were high and coon pretty scarce. This dog would go hunting and tree coon right but I hated him. Most nights were spent looking for him. He was just too hard to find in the western Oklahoma wind. I'd give a pretty penny to have him now with GPS and train to tone. So guys we did have big hunting dogs back then.

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My problem back then was having a dog good enough to get treed! They are awful hard to find when they aren't making any noise.

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Originally posted by Georgeb
Youd have to be a old old timer to have hunted before track collars.If your much older than me then your almost dead.ha.Beep beeps were around long before gps.I started hunting in the mid 70s.I left dogs sometimes.Im sure they were treed somewhere.Back then people didnt hurt hunting dogs.A few did dissapear forever tho.Found most of em ok.Didnt notice it hurting them treeing like they should next time i go hunting.I think it was mid 80s when i got a track outfit..Never left a hound again.Found a couple dead on a road tho.Dogs dont need every coon they tree but they do need some.Ha.They like it.

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Originally posted by DL NH
The era I was referring to was the late 70’s. There were some who had telemetry systems. I didn’t have money enough for that until 2000. Lost a beagle Dec. 31st 1999. She was out for over a week with many nights 0° or below.
When I got her back the wife said I should get a tracking system. That was long before GPS but I never lost one again!

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Started hunting 1956, no beep beep until the 80s. But I did have a shock collar early 60s. Model T coil and a 9 volt square battery. I still have it.

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thanks

Back in the late 80's , me and my hunting partner went from wisconsin down to illinois to get us each a pup. I got a Black & Tan from Art Hunzikers house, northern illinois. He got at redbone , picked it up way down in southern Illinois. I got the best hound for pleasure hunting you could ask. His pup was out of Millers Red Betsy. When you turned her loose , she was at least 1 mile away 80 percent of the time , and we live where there was alot of coon. He didn't hunt her much.

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Started hunting 1956, no beep beep until the 80s. But I did have a shock collar early 60s. Model T coil and a 9 volt square battery. I still have it.

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Re: We had better “hound men”, back then too

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Originally posted by OLD TIMER
Oh that’s right, it’s 2022 so please change that to hound person and if I should ever screw up and say coon hunter or hunting, hit the freakin tone button and it should change it to RACCOON.

Anyway, “we” spent more time with our hounds years ago. If you had kids they weren’t in everything like today and of course there wasn’t as much for them to pick from. I look at some of my nephews and there is no way they could ever enjoy a hound like I did. Their 3 and 4 year olds are in swimming, dance, hockey, baseball and gymnastics. Then on the weekend they have to go shopping or to the park. Not saying that’s bad, just a total different world.

Were we smarter? Not sure, but I learnt how to know what was happening by their voice and from older hunters. Not by looking at some little screen and then make up excuses for the dog anyway😂

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Houndsmen and women today love the sport just as much as they did 100 years ago, and just as much as they will 100 years from now.

Different isn't wrong. It's just different.

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Originally posted by Paul Frederick
My problem back then was having a dog good enough to get treed! They are awful hard to find when they aren't making any noise.

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Where i lived in Ga.and hunted in the 70s there were some Hard treedogs.Coon dogs.But most were ill on the tree. Mostly males.Not many registered hounds.Back then Ga had a open season year round with no bag limit in the area of Ga i lived in.Not sure about the whole state.The woods wasnt crawling with coons but there was good hunting if you could break your dog off deer and fox.It was hard work breaking hounds off trash.lol.People would hear i was a coonhunter and ask me to hunt on there land.Things have changed.ha.

"Houndsmen and women today love the sport just as much as they did 100 years ago"

Sir,
100 years ago it wasn't a sport. It was a way to but food on the table and extra money for Christmas. It became a sport when the scorecard was carried to the woods to get a trophy and title and the .22 was left at home. Then along came the "game" of winning big money and the .22 was still left at home.
So I agree it's different but just remember different isn't always wrong or better, it's just different.

And as far as 100 years from now?? Heck, there won't be any of this in 50 years.

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Re: "Houndsmen and women today love the sport just as much as they did 100 years ago"

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Sir,
100 years ago it wasn't a sport. It was a way to but food on the table and extra money for Christmas. It became a sport when the scorecard was carried to the woods to get a trophy and title and the .22 was left at home. Then along came the "game" of winning big money and the .22 was still left at home.
So I agree it's different but just remember different isn't always wrong or better, it's just different.

And as far as 100 years from now?? Heck, there won't be any of this in 50 years.

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