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Posted by tylergduncan on 02-16-2022 11:31 AM:

The Wipeout story Part 1 of 3. Coon hunting university podcast

Part 1 of 3: On today's episode, Tyler and Mr. Eddie Simmions make the drive to Adamsville, TN and conduct a interview with three legends, Mr., Barry Kiddy, Mr. Billy Bell, and Mr. Mike Ferguson. They will be discussing the beginning of the wipeout story, Candy, Zeb, and much more! This is the 1st part of a 3-part series_ _You will not want to miss this interview, I hope y'all enjoy!!
CLASS IS IN SESSION!!!!

Apple podcast link- https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podca...i=1000551268648

Spotify Link- https://open.spotify.com/episode/5o...aTXKpQLQWG6Hjnw

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Posted by Bruce m. Conkey on 02-16-2022 12:57 PM:

I know a lot of people on this message board love to try and figure what makes these hounds click. This podcast on the wipeout hounds gives some great insight to a winning line of hounds. Listen and see how and where it all started.

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Posted by tylergduncan on 02-17-2022 01:10 PM:

Old Zeb

After the way they said Zeb would act after showing him a gun, I might have to try that!! lol

Posted by Lovis Burns on 02-17-2022 01:39 PM:

Very nice. Looking forward to 2 and 3.

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Posted by N Williams on 02-17-2022 04:03 PM:

It’s not talked about much on this forum but Zeb was no doubt the greatest reproducer of all time. Think about how many pups some of the bigger named stud dogs had back then and yet his blood is still dominating the major hunts today. Now I will say that line isn’t for everyone but if you want a big time winner it’s almost impossible to hang with a wipeout dog that’s right.

Posted by tylergduncan on 02-17-2022 04:33 PM:

You're correct sir. Why do you believe he is never talked about?

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Originally posted by N Williams
It’s not talked about much on this forum but Zeb was no doubt the greatest reproducer of all time. Think about how many pups some of the bigger named stud dogs had back then and yet his blood is still dominating the major hunts today. Now I will say that line isn’t for everyone but if you want a big time winner it’s almost impossible to hang with a wipeout dog that’s right.

Posted by N Williams on 02-17-2022 05:18 PM:

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Originally posted by tylergduncan
You're correct sir. Why do you believe he is never talked about?

I’ve seen post started about greatest reproducer of all time and he not be mentioned. I don’t think anyone can say that there has ever been one to have the kind of impact he did. But I will say. Look at the $kc world hunt final cast like the last 8 years I almost positive Z3 has had one to win it or in the final cast every year. But no Zeb no Z3. Zeb was the greatest reproducer to produce traits that you needed to get a big time winner. And one of those was the ability not to give out. The other was accuracy.

I’m just saying this. Imigine if Zeb would have had 2500 puppies.

Posted by Bruce m. Conkey on 02-18-2022 11:54 AM:

You can use the search on this site and find some info on
Zep Again when he was young and follow him when they weren't really sure of how he would reproduce and do.

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Posted by NPerry on 02-18-2022 05:42 PM:

If you look at most of the so called wipeout dogs that won most of the money. They were out of females that were out of either rat attack or tequila sunrise. So were does the dog get there talent from? I think it’s a combination and a result of good breeding. Hard to give all the credit to one specific bloodline unless the dogs are line bred.

Posted by N Williams on 02-19-2022 02:16 AM:

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Originally posted by NPerry
If you look at most of the so called wipeout dogs that won most of the money. They were out of females that were out of either rat attack or tequila sunrise. So were does the dog get there talent from? I think it’s a combination and a result of good breeding. Hard to give all the credit to one specific bloodline unless the dogs are line bred.

Well I agree to a certain extent. But most of the good rat females that crossed well on wipeout were also wipeout breed. Go back and look at cyclone pedigree. Also Zeb 3 was 3/4 wipeout and 1/4 clover. Kiddy told me clover crossed the best on wipeout. But when you look at rat it only crossed well on clover and wipeout. At least the ones I liked. But you can’t argue the fact that for over the last decade trying to win a major hunt without some wipeout on the end of your lead was like taking a knife to a gun fight. Not saying all hunts but as a general rule.

Posted by N Williams on 02-19-2022 02:16 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by NPerry
If you look at most of the so called wipeout dogs that won most of the money. They were out of females that were out of either rat attack or tequila sunrise. So were does the dog get there talent from? I think it’s a combination and a result of good breeding. Hard to give all the credit to one specific bloodline unless the dogs are line bred.

Posted by tylergduncan on 02-19-2022 03:26 AM:

Skuna river and wipeout

quote:
Originally posted by N Williams
Well I agree to a certain extent. But most of the good rat females that crossed well on wipeout were also wipeout breed. Go back and look at cyclone pedigree. Also Zeb 3 was 3/4 wipeout and 1/4 clover. Kiddy told me clover crossed the best on wipeout. But when you look at rat it only crossed well on clover and wipeout. At least the ones I liked. But you can’t argue the fact that for over the last decade trying to win a major hunt without some wipeout on the end of your lead was like taking a knife to a gun fight. Not saying all hunts but as a general rule.

To me personally it seemed like Skuna river/Lipper bred dogs crossed well on Wipeout and that is for sure the case on Zeb. Koy's Dam was tight line bred skuna river/lipper and Moose's Dam was out of sliver dollar favorite who was a Skuna river dog. Then fast forward a little bit and take backwater pearl she is a grand mother to bone collector and that was another wipeout skuna river cross although not as close.

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