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Posted by RC-Abby on 08-21-2021 02:22 PM:

Your Input

First where I live is flat. We have a lot of drainage tile that very in sizes. Some big enough for a dog to turn around in some not.

I have a LITTLE 2 yr old that goes where the track goes. Get the picture here. So far my 9 yr old hunting buddy or myself have been able to reach/crawl in and get a leg and pull her out. But I know sooner or later she will get to far in.

Here is where I want your thoughts please. If I get a pc of tile bury it leaving 1 end exposed. Then attach my fence charger to the open end. After that lay a trail with a drag into the tile. Plug in and turn dog loose.

Now questions that pops in my mind. What's the chances of breaking her of entering tile? Or will I break her off coon? Anyone tried this or similar? She has hooked her tail on electric fence a few times and stays out of steer pen now.

Thanks
Randi Bidlack


Posted by Reuben on 08-21-2021 10:09 PM:

Is entering tile…like entering a tunnel or cave?

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Posted by Reuben on 08-21-2021 10:09 PM:

Is entering tile…like entering a tunnel or cave?

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Posted by delta slough on 08-21-2021 10:41 PM:

Put a beep beep collar on her for sure. I dont want to speculate on any training methods. I sure wouldn't turn her loose without an extra tracking collar. Jr.Steelman


Posted by OLD TIMER on 08-21-2021 11:40 PM:

How smart is the dog??

Am I getting shocked because of the smell or because of the pipe???

Coming home late and you get slapped. Because you came in the house late or because you have perfume on your clothes???

My guess, your dog won’t know either😂

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Posted by houndsound on 08-21-2021 11:46 PM:

Probably similar to trying to break one from climbing a tree. Find someone with a good solution to that and you may be on to fixing your problem.

dk

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Posted by houndsound on 08-22-2021 12:32 AM:

Re: How smart is the dog??

quote:
Originally posted by OLD TIMER
Am I getting shocked because of the smell or because of the pipe???

Coming home late and you get slapped. Because you came in the house late or because you have perfume on your clothes???

My guess, your dog won’t know either😂



It was the perfume.

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Posted by shadinc on 08-22-2021 12:44 AM:

Re: How smart is the dog??

quote:
Originally posted by OLD TIMER
Am I getting shocked because of the smell or because of the pipe???

Coming home late and you get slapped. Because you came in the house late or because you have perfume on your clothes???

My guess, your dog won’t know either😂

Old Timer, you seem to have a one-track mind.

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Posted by shadinc on 08-22-2021 12:51 AM:

Re: How smart is the dog??

quote:
Originally posted by OLD TIMER
Am I getting shocked because of the smell or because of the pipe???

Coming home late and you get slapped. Because you came in the house late or because you have perfume on your clothes???

My guess, your dog won’t know either😂

That's the reason you don't try to burn your dog's head off with electricity. Get a pipe in your yard and lure the dog in with different scents and different treats. Stimulate him just enough to get him to back out. The scent changes every time, the only thing constant is the pipe. It might take ten or twenty tries, but after a while, he won't put his head in the pipe for a rib eye.

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Posted by OLD TIMER on 08-22-2021 01:03 AM:

😂😂 nope—

Just trying to get down to these youngsters level before they screw up more good hounds.

Example. What if you stopped off and bought some perfume because you were going to be late. And the sales person got some on you?? Now you got slapped and you THINK it was the perfume but was it??

So NEVER correct a hound unless you know the hound knows why and if there could be a chance it doesn’t—DON’T

Your idea “May Work” or could you end up with a hound that would not track ANY track?? I can’t answer that and not sure if anyone can.

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Posted by Reuben on 08-22-2021 01:04 AM:

Re: Re: How smart is the dog??

quote:
Originally posted by shadinc
That's the reason you don't try to burn your dog's head off with electricity. Get a pipe in your yard and lure the dog in with different scents and different treats. Stimulate him just enough to get him to back out. The scent changes every time, the only thing constant is the pipe. It might take ten or twenty tries, but after a while, he won't put his head in the pipe for a rib eye.


Good logic there…

That ribeye got me to thinking…I trained a Doberman to guard my things…he was a natural…to prove how good he was I set out a ribeye so he could guard for me…i stepped out for a few minutes and when I came back the ribeye was gone…😳

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Posted by shadinc on 08-22-2021 03:05 AM:

Re: Re: Re: How smart is the dog??

quote:
Originally posted by Reuben
Good logic there…

That ribeye got me to thinking…I trained a Doberman to guard my things…he was a natural…to prove how good he was I set out a ribeye so he could guard for me…i stepped out for a few minutes and when I came back the ribeye was gone…😳

I think you meant to say you almost trained a Doberman to guard your things. LOL

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Posted by johnny reb on 08-22-2021 03:06 AM:

Re: Your Input

quote:
Originally posted by RC-Abby
First where I live is flat. We have a lot of drainage tile that very in sizes. Some big enough for a dog to turn around in some not.

I have a LITTLE 2 yr old that goes where the track goes. Get the picture here. So far my 9 yr old hunting buddy or myself have been able to reach/crawl in and get a leg and pull her out. But I know sooner or later she will get to far in.

Here is where I want your thoughts please. If I get a pc of tile bury it leaving 1 end exposed. Then attach my fence charger to the open end. After that lay a trail with a drag into the tile. Plug in and turn dog loose.

Now questions that pops in my mind. What's the chances of breaking her of entering tile? Or will I break her off coon? Anyone tried this or similar? She has hooked her tail on electric fence a few times and stays out of steer pen

now.

Thanks
Randi Bidlack



I would work more obedience getting the dog to quit what it’s doing and come when called. Than worrying about the worst case scenario.


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