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Posted by james44 on 07-19-2021 01:38 PM:

treeing flying squirrels ?

guys i got a gyp that has taking up treeing flying squirrels i have seen several in the trees any suggestions on breaking her hate to shock her treeing , any ideas


Posted by pamjohnson on 07-19-2021 02:30 PM:

To often people are like you and hate to correct a dog on the tree. Yes some dogs can't handle any correction on the tree or at all for that matter. You are going to have to know your dog as well as understand how to correct her to move in a forward direction. Unfortunately it sounds like you already left it become a habit so it may take a lot of correction at this point.
I think the only way to correct this is on the tree. You are going to have to decide weather you want to fix it or live with it.


Posted by Lance Laymon on 07-19-2021 07:27 PM:

I would turn my light off as soon as I saw it , walk away and shock the dog until it leaves. Repeat until they tree only coons. I've broke several from it they learn what you want pretty quick. Be sure to love them up when they do tree a coon. Why would you let a dog get away with something you don't want them to do?


Posted by shadinc on 07-19-2021 08:52 PM:

Be careful. there's shocking and there's SHOCKING. You don't want to hurt her, just make it uncomfortable for her to be at a tree with a squirrel in it. Don't try to break her in one lesson.

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Posted by OLD TIMER on 07-19-2021 09:54 PM:

Isn’t the E-Collar for correction?

I mean, people correct a hound for running deer or fox if they want them to only run coon. So why as soon as they are doing “wrong” at a tree God for bid you correct them??

That is why breeding brains is the most important thing to breed for. Only a dumb hound would stop treeing coon because it got correct for treeing squirrels.

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Posted by james44 on 07-19-2021 10:24 PM:

flying squirrels

she has just started doing this first night she did it treed twice i didnt see anything in the trees second night she treed about 4 times seen 2 of them and 2 more last time i took her she has treed several coon before this and shes a good stay put tree dog i guess ill give the shocking collar a chance .

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Posted by Reuben on 07-20-2021 02:50 AM:

I don’t hunt tree dogs but if I did…I would shoot out the flying squirrel and when the dog grabbed it I would light up the dog…I would take the squirrel home and freeze it and in three days give the dog a reminder while in the kennel…
Tie a 2 ft. String to the squirrel and casually walk up to the dog and let it see and smell the squirrel…swinging the squirrel towards the dog and each time it touches the dog light it up…about three taps…

Three or 4 days later repeat but only one tap…the dog will be looking to get away from the squirrel…

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Posted by DL NH on 07-20-2021 03:27 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Lance Laymon
I would turn my light off as soon as I saw it , walk away and shock the dog until it leaves. Repeat until they tree only coons. I've broke several from it they learn what you want pretty quick. Be sure to love them up when they do tree a coon. Why would you let a dog get away with something you don't want them to do?


This is the advice I’d follow if I was having the same issue.

I’d do the same w/any game treed but coon.

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Posted by Dave Richards on 07-21-2021 05:46 AM:

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Originally posted by DL NH
This is the advice I’d follow if I was having the same issue.

I’d do the same w/any game treed but coon.

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I do not tolerate off game track or tree they get shocked in reason as suggested by this posted. Dogs today have way to much tree to be ruined with tree correction, correcting on a tree is no different than correcting on a track. A smart dog knows it's the game causing the unwanted results of shocking. Dave

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Posted by jfoster533 on 07-21-2021 05:41 PM:

I have a 3 yr old male that had a thing for treeing possums. I started leading him away from the tree, then scolding, then a light switching. I finally got mad and got rough with him twice…once with the ecollar at the tree. Next thing I knew, he was treeing coons and running away when he saw me coming. Got him back on the tree now and avoiding possums, but it could have ended worse. I would advise caution about correction around a tree with an ecollar. I have had dogs with a flying squirrel habit before…never had one that I couldn’t break from it with repeated stern scoldings and light switching…


Posted by Jgarrett on 07-21-2021 07:09 PM:

I recommend catching a flying squirrel and keeping it in a cage for as long as it takes to get the job done. If you know anyone that has bluebird boxes close to some timber there is a good chance you will be able to come up with a flying squirrel pretty easy.


Posted by Jack Bingham on 07-21-2021 10:23 PM:

90% of people don't know when or how not to use an ecollar. And that same 90% shouldn't own one. Be very careful alot of dogs have been ruined by electricity.

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Posted by james44 on 07-22-2021 12:43 AM:

flying squirrels

i ordered 2 small live traps for small rodents going to try catching one and try breaking her at the house and try the scolding at tree and see if that works .

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Posted by Lance Laymon on 07-22-2021 11:37 AM:

Good luck! If you scold her at the tree it comes from you and she knows it. If you shock her without saying a word or being around it comes from the critter.


Posted by Reuben on 07-22-2021 11:13 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Lance Laymon
Good luck! If you scold her at the tree it comes from you and she knows it. If you shock her without saying a word or being around it comes from the critter.

Yes indeed…

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Posted by Donnie Stevens on 07-23-2021 01:49 AM:

If she stopped treeing squirrels because she thinks I told her to ....I'd be ok with that lol. For most its the safer route then breaking out the juice at the tree like Jack said.

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Posted by jfoster533 on 07-23-2021 02:02 AM:

You can always break out the ecollar later if lighter methods don’t discourage them. If you have a bad reaction to the ecollar at a tree, you can’t take it back…


Posted by shadinc on 07-23-2021 02:28 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by jfoster533
You can always break out the ecollar later if lighter methods don’t discourage them. If you have a bad reaction to the ecollar at a tree, you can’t take it back…
There are lighter methods WITH an e-collar. That's why there are low settings on it.

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