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Posted by RatDog on 07-17-2021 06:50 PM:

non hunting dog

If you make 14 minute drops all night can a dog that dont leave your feet be scratched ?

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Posted by harleydan1956 on 07-17-2021 07:33 PM:

I would say, yes. I believe the "continuous" 15 minutes is only broke if the dog goes hunting, but not if time is called to move.

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Posted by shadinc on 07-18-2021 12:38 AM:

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Originally posted by harleydan1956
I would say, yes. I believe the "continuous" 15 minutes is only broke if the dog goes hunting, but if time is called to move.

Is that "but" supposed to be a "not"?

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Posted by Dogwhisper on 07-18-2021 01:03 AM:

Re: non hunting dog

quote:
Originally posted by RatDog
If you make 14 minute drops all night can a dog that dont leave your feet be scratched ?

This kind of dog is no account......attempting to scratch such a dog IMO is a character flaw......

Posted by harleydan1956 on 07-18-2021 02:43 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by shadinc
Is that "but" supposed to be a "not"?

I edited it

Posted by RatDog on 07-18-2021 04:36 AM:

Would really like to know how the rule is interpreted.

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Posted by Redneck Mafia on 07-18-2021 05:53 AM:

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Originally posted by RatDog
Would really like to know how the rule is interpreted.

My rules expert is at a hunt tonight getting rained on but I'm a pretty certain that it is consecutive scorecard minutes. Calling timeout and moving spots does not change anything the time would start where it left off when time was called back in.
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Posted by RatDog on 07-18-2021 02:39 PM:

red

So if the dog doesn't hunt for the first drop of 10 minutes and doesn't hunt the very next drop the first 5 he's out ??

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Posted by Richard Lambert on 07-18-2021 03:26 PM:

Yes....

Posted by RatDog on 07-18-2021 05:36 PM:

Ok that's what I thought, those around me the other night disagreed and said you started over

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Posted by Richard Lambert on 07-18-2021 05:45 PM:

Rule says consecutive "scorecard" minutes, UKC has said that timeouts are not "scorecard" minutes. You start and stop the continuous non hunting minutes just as you stop and start the hunt time minutes. You don't start over the 120 continuous hunt time minutes every time you call time out and move.

Posted by Sonny Phipps on 07-18-2021 10:21 PM:

I thought when the rules started to shorten times up on everything that this rule was over looked. Why should a dog be able to “not hunt” for amost 1/4 of a cast? Draw me 3 of them every time and I won’t complain, lol. If I get beat by a dog that should be scratched for not hunting, I deserve every bit of it.

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Posted by benderb4 on 07-18-2021 11:29 PM:

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Originally posted by Sonny Phipps
I thought when the rules started to shorten times up on everything that this rule was over looked. Why should a dog be able to “not hunt” for amost 1/4 of a cast? Draw me 3 of them every time and I won’t complain, lol. If I get beat by a dog that should be scratched for not hunting, I deserve every bit of it.

I know a guy that got a first place like that. other three dogs were taking minus and his dog was following along. He had got a piece of another tree that night Cast walked under a tree with a coon in it. This dog pulls up on the tree . Turned out to be enough for a first

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Posted by Dave Richards on 07-19-2021 12:02 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by Sonny Phipps
I thought when the rules started to shorten times up on everything that this rule was over looked. Why should a dog be able to “not hunt” for amost 1/4 of a cast? Draw me 3 of them every time and I won’t complain, lol. If I get beat by a dog that should be scratched for not hunting, I deserve every bit of it.

Sonny, that makes 2 of us at least, if a non hunting dog beats mine I don't have much of a coon dog. Yes, it could, but like I said if it does beat mine, I deserve to be beat, plain and simple. Dave

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Posted by RatDog on 07-19-2021 02:49 AM:

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Sonny, that makes 2 of us at least, if a non hunting dog beats mine I don't have much of a coon dog. Yes, it could, but like I said if it does beat mine, I deserve to be beat, plain and simple. Dave

Was just needing a rule clarification.

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Posted by randywoodard2 on 07-19-2021 03:28 AM:

If the time is running on the dog I'd say istand there one more minute and finish the 15!!

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Posted by pamjohnson on 07-19-2021 02:08 PM:

15 consecutive minutes. Time outs does not change it.
So 5 minutes at the end of 1 drop and 10 minutes at the beginning of the next and the dog is scratched.
There is no need for people to tell someone if they got beaten by a dog that didn't hunt that There dog is a piece of crap. It can and does happen.
How ignorant and arrogant is that statement?

Posted by RatDog on 07-19-2021 11:06 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by pamjohnson
15 consecutive minutes. Time outs does not change it.
So 5 minutes at the end of 1 drop and 10 minutes at the beginning of the next and the dog is scratched.
There is no need for people to tell someone if they got beaten by a dog that didn't hunt that There dog is a piece of crap. It can and does happen.
How ignorant and arrogant is that statement?

Yeah I wasn't looking for a debate just curious how to handle it in a hunt

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Posted by Allen / UKC on 07-20-2021 01:47 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by RatDog
Yeah I wasn't looking for a debate just curious how to handle it in a hunt

RatDog, whatever amount of time that remains on the dogs' 15-minute clock is what the dog has left after time is called back in. "Consecutive scorecard minutes" is the key part of that rule that supports this.

Posted by honalieh on 07-22-2021 02:02 AM:

Agreed!

quote:
Originally posted by Sonny Phipps
I thought when the rules started to shorten times up on everything that this rule was over looked. Why should a dog be able to “not hunt” for amost 1/4 of a cast? Draw me 3 of them every time and I won’t complain, lol. If I get beat by a dog that should be scratched for not hunting, I deserve every bit of it.

If someone wants to scratch a dog that won't hunt because they're afraid it might beat them, imagine how hard they will try to scratch a dog that WILL HUNT.

Posted by RatDog on 07-22-2021 03:12 AM:

Re: Agreed!

quote:
Originally posted by honalieh
If someone wants to scratch a dog that won't hunt because they're afraid it might beat them, imagine how hard they will try to scratch a dog that WILL HUNT.

I think ya missed the point lol

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