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Posted by Dave Richards on 04-26-2021 03:24 AM:

Rattlesnakes

How many hunters have seen a rattlesnake this year while coon hunting? I do not summer hunt any more, but just curious as to how many hunters actually encounter a rattlesnake while hunting in the Spring and Summer months. Dave

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Posted by houndsound on 04-26-2021 03:32 AM:

I've seen one... over quite a few years, only one. Although, if it's hot enough for a rattlesnake to be out and active at night... it's probably too hot for me to be out, lol.

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Posted by Donnie Stevens on 04-26-2021 04:53 AM:

Not me Dave. This year or any other year and its gonna stay that way lol.

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Posted by shadinc on 04-26-2021 02:42 PM:

I've seen a few rattlers in the daytime, but never saw or heard one at night. Cottonmouths, about 100,000.

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Posted by Tillery on 04-26-2021 02:46 PM:

Re: Rattlesnakes

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Originally posted by Dave Richards
How many hunters have seen a rattlesnake this year while coon hunting? I do not summer hunt any more, but just curious as to how many hunters actually encounter a rattlesnake while hunting in the Spring and Summer months. Dave

I saw one 2 weeks ago. I almost stepped on him while shining a tree.

Posted by 2nd Mac on 04-26-2021 06:30 PM:

I haven’t seen any yet this year but I promise you I’ll see several before summer is over.

Posted by Charles Pullen on 04-26-2021 11:41 PM:

I haven’t seen no rattlesnakes yet but I have seen 2 King Cobras .

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Posted by Reuben on 04-27-2021 02:02 AM:

I saw one a couple weeks ago in the gulf coast marsh...this snake scared me on how it acted...this 3.5 ft rattlesnake buzzed and I stood still to pinpoint location...within a few seconds I located his position and just as quickly he struck at me...he was too far to make contact but...if he had been a foot or 18 inches from me he would have gotten me...

I been buzzed before but none struck unless provoked...it’s usually a warning so we can back away...this one made me more cautious...

I didn’t have my snake boots on and was watching my steps closely...but it seems a 3.5 ft snake can strike almost to knee height...five footers are common enough in certain areas around here...

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Posted by Dave1 on 04-27-2021 06:09 PM:

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Originally posted by Charles Pullen
I haven’t seen no rattlesnakes yet but I have seen 2 King Cobras .

Those basterds are in the US??

Posted by Dave Richards on 04-27-2021 10:39 PM:

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Those basterds are in the US??

I think he was referring to the 2 legged version. Lol. Dave

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Posted by Dave Richards on 04-30-2021 01:25 AM:

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Originally posted by Reuben
I saw one a couple weeks ago in the gulf coast marsh...this snake scared me on how it acted...this 3.5 ft rattlesnake buzzed and I stood still to pinpoint location...within a few seconds I located his position and just as quickly he struck at me...he was too far to make contact but...if he had been a foot or 18 inches from me he would have gotten me...

I been buzzed before but none struck unless provoked...it’s usually a warning so we can back away...this one made me more cautious...

I didn’t have my snake boots on and was watching my steps closely...but it seems a 3.5 ft snake can strike almost to knee height...five footers are common enough in certain areas around here...

Rueben, that's just to close for comfort for me, talking about ruining ones day, now that would mess up a man's hunt in a hurry. No hunting for me when snakes are crawling. Lol. Dave

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Posted by Reuben on 04-30-2021 01:54 AM:

Dave,

The marsh has a high population of western diamondbacks...in the woods around here doesn't have many rattlesnakes...you can go years without seeing one...cottonmouths are plentiful around water...

many areas in Texas will have a high concentration of rattlesnakes...the biggest I have killed was in the Marsh...right at 6 ft. long and maybe 2.5 inches in diameter or more...it seems the average size is around 4 to 5 ft. when we run into them...I hunt very little in the marsh anymore...

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Posted by Dave Richards on 04-30-2021 02:39 AM:

Rueben

Please stay safe, it only takes one bite to mess you up, they say the hospital Bill is unreal for a rattlesnake bite. If you don't die the hospital Bill might be unreal. In my younger days, I hunted year around and did not pay any attention to snakes, these days I do not hunt when snakes are crawling. I must have lost my nerve or maybe just got smarter ( lol . I worry more about my dogs getting bit more than myself, as I watch for them and dogs do not. Dave

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Posted by bearhunter747 on 04-30-2021 01:46 PM:

I've saw one out hunting during snake season but I know we have more I didn't see. I just ordered 25 rattlesnake vaccines for the dogs. We had 3 bit last summer and 1 died. Gonna try these and hope for the best if it happens again

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Posted by Reuben on 04-30-2021 02:50 PM:

Dave,

thanks for your concern and you are very right...I have seen some snake bite photos and some snake bites can cause extreme damage...I have a good pair of snake boots but I wont hunt the Marsh...

We hunt one marsh that we can use 4 wheeler at least 90 percent of the time or more...that one is ok for me to hunt and I always get as close to the bay as possible...I haven't seen many snakes there...either way I am very cautious...

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Posted by Dave Richards on 05-01-2021 03:39 AM:

Rueben

I have always heard that hogs would kill and eat rattlesnakes, now I really do not know if that's true or not. Read a story about hogs killing all of the rattlesnakes that were on Catalina Island in California. If that is true, areas with a lot of wild hogs should be low on rattlesnakes. What is your experience with that matter, is it correct or just a story? Dave

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Posted by Truth on 05-01-2021 05:11 AM:

Rattlers

I haven’t seen any lately but it’s still cool here at night. Rattlers are generally very shy of people. If they see you coming or hear you they hide quick. People see them often when they are caught off guard. The number of rattlers have increased over the past 2 decades because the number of snake hunters decreased.

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Posted by Reuben on 05-01-2021 10:47 AM:

Re: Rueben

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Originally posted by Dave Richards
I have always heard that hogs would kill and eat rattlesnakes, now I really do not know if that's true or not. Read a story about hogs killing all of the rattlesnakes that were on Catalina Island in California. If that is true, areas with a lot of wild hogs should be low on rattlesnakes. What is your experience with that matter, is it correct or just a story? Dave

I do not know about wild hogs eating rattlesnakes... I always thought wild hogs ate snakes based on a different experiences as a kid...I saw a documentary and there was a wild hog that walked past a rattler and didn’t pay it any mind whatsoever but that is only one incident...

Honestly the place I talk about that was loaded with snakes was back in the late 1970s and early 1980s...but even then there were many hogs back then in that particular area...the hogs weren’t everywhere back in those days like now...where we hunt now not many rattlers are seen but they are there...

Back then even the marsh across the river from where I’m talking about didn’t have hogs nor the island close by...the hogs are there now and most everywhere else that has the right environment...

Back in the 1960s during the hot and dry summers, my grandfather would take 5 gallon buckets of water to the pig pen and dump the water in the mud hole for the pig or pigs...he said besides cooling them down it would keep the bugs off of them...we always had one hog per year that would be 300 plus for the lard and meat...he would be butchered when the cold weather arrived...it would be a get together and a fun time...
During the dry times the cottonmouth moccasins we’re looking for mud and water holes...and sometimes they would come to the pigs wallowing hole...when I fed the pig or pigs they walked by the hole to get to the feed trough and if a snake was in the mud hole it would be killed and eaten pretty quick...I remember one of those times very well...the pig curled his front legs (like we would kneel) back as the snake struck at his jowls...he snapped at the snake a few times and once he had it he just shook it pretty hard and he just swallowed him down...the other times they just caught them and shook them a bit and swallowed them down...growing up on the farm I experienced and learned many things that I took for granted back in those days...

So why did the penned hog kneel...I think he kneeled because there isn’t much fatty tissue in those areas so that is probably why...apparently extra fatty tissue protects some from the snake venom...
Why were our hogs willing to eat a snake that had the potential to bite them...they did get bit but I never saw swelling... was it because they lacked a nutrient or was it natural for them to eat snakes?

Truth...you are speaking the truth...most want to get away...if the snake decides to lay low on account it thinks it is hidden and we were to accidentally step on it we probably will get bit...if you are standing close for too long the snake will think it is discovered and will rattle to warn you...

The other day that is what happened to me...by time I pin pointed the snakes location it struck and immediately it turned and disappeared in the salt grass...luckily I was out of reach...

The thing is...getting bit by a rattlesnake once is once too many...

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Posted by 2nd Mac on 05-01-2021 03:14 PM:

Re: Rueben

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Originally posted by Dave Richards
I have always heard that hogs would kill and eat rattlesnakes, now I really do not know if that's true or not. Read a story about hogs killing all of the rattlesnakes that were on Catalina Island in California. If that is true, areas with a lot of wild hogs should be low on rattlesnakes. What is your experience with that matter, is it correct or just a story? Dave

Where I live in Oklahoma hogs are thick as rats and the rattlesnakes are plentiful and spreading to places they have never been before. I don’t think the hogs are killing any

Posted by Coby Wright on 05-01-2021 10:45 PM:

I haven't seen any snakes yet but I did have a dog get bit the other night. She's okay now.

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Posted by Dave Richards on 05-02-2021 01:24 AM:

Re: Re: Rueben

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Originally posted by 2nd Mac
Where I live in Oklahoma hogs are thick as rats and the rattlesnakes are plentiful and spreading to places they have never been before. I don’t think the hogs are killing any

Based on what you have stated, the hogs are not much of a threat to the rattlesnake population. Maybe the hogs just have too much other food to depend on snakes for their source of food. Personally, I wish all of the venomous snakes would disappear. Biologist say they keep the rodents in check, but a lot of nonvenomous snakes eat rodents and will not hurt humans. No way we need something as dangerous as venomous snakes just for rodent control or at least in my opinion. Dave

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Posted by donnieD ok on 05-02-2021 06:12 PM:

Rattle Snakes

There are lots of rattlers in my state and there are lots of them where I hunt. And yes they are moving at night but don't create a problem most of the time. The older dogs will smell them and move away, the pups are the ones that aren't wise to them. Early bow season in the day time is when they are most aggressive here.

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Posted by Rex Ridge on 05-03-2021 06:17 PM:

I usually see one or two when riding horses. If we saw one hunting, we'd be done hunting. My husband fishes where I ride, when he leaves to go fishing I always tell him to watch for snakes, he says if he ever sees one, he'll be done fishing there.

Posted by Dave Richards on 05-04-2021 01:11 AM:

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Originally posted by Rex Ridge
I usually see one or two when riding horses. If we saw one hunting, we'd be done hunting. My husband fishes where I ride, when he leaves to go fishing I always tell him to watch for snakes, he says if he ever sees one, he'll be done fishing there.

Lots of folks see rattlesnakes while trail riding horses, must be that sitting higher up and focusing on things around us that accounts for that, or that's my guess.Lol. Dave

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Posted by Larry Hall on 05-04-2021 03:32 PM:

Lordy, I believe I'd quit summer hunting if we had a bunch of snakes.. Thankfully up here we have a few Mississauga rattlers and that is our only venomous snake.. I've never seen one in the woods at night, but I've seen several over the years mushroom and squirrel hunting.. My grandfather killed four in the yard one summer when I was a kid and the neighbors moved a chicken house in the spring and found 27 under it right down the road.. We lived next to some of the best habitat in the area at that time and i'm sure it still holds a good population of them.

You all that hunt in them have my respect.. I'm not a snake hater, but sure don't like being surprised!!

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