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mean dog

Band him and pleasure hunt him

Mean dog

Could be a female you know. Lol. That's all they are fit fo r pleasure hunting alone. Dave

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Mean Dogs

Heck half these dogs now are so mean people can’t even get there pictures taken in the hunts. Can’t ride them together inboxes. We can’t feed none of them together. There are so many dogs that are meaner than ____ and they don’t even have to get to the tree. Need to just cull them all. None of these dogs would make good guard dogs but they are alligators.

So if a dog will sit there and try and kill everything around it ,while it’s eating, lining up to take pictures, in there kennel or dog box, but not do that while it’s treed is not mean?

I will guarantee you you if you took the last 10 world ch males put them in a 1/2 acre fenced in yard and let them go and walk away within a minute or two you would have a dog fight if they didn’t know each other. But if you let them all go at night to hunt they want. So are they mean?

Mr. Williams

It is just what you let them get away with, if you are the Alpha and stop any aggression food, loading, etc. You won't have a problem, it's when folks condone such behavior that it becomes a problem. Dave

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Dave Richards Treeing Walkers Reg American Saddlebred and Registered Rocky Mt. Show Horses

Dave I agree with you to a point, but here are, and I owned one, that there was no breaking him in any way. Given the chance, he would fight. He just plain loved it. He would rather fight than eat. Kept him lock up in cyclone fence kennels alone and he tore a hole at the bottom of the fence to get into the pen next to his and killed another dog I had in there. OOPS, I was wrong...they can be broke. He can fight all he wants in the place he is at now. Sure is quite with him gone. Mean dogs have no place in the sport or in my pens.

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Dave Richards Treeing Walkers Reg American Saddlebred and Registered Rocky Mt. Show Horses

Most of these deep and lonely dogs will fight that’s why they are man made lonely . Owners don’t have the stones to cull . Let a dog cover them and you will see . The handlers pride themselves on it . Cover late get ate . We have what we accept . I have a $10000 bone pile at the back of the place . I don’t have to cull much any more only 1 this year and it was just a pen barker . I’m pretty easy to get along with until I draw a fangster. Why would anyone want to be associated with one .

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Re: Mr. Williams

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Originally posted by Dave Richards
It is just what you let them get away with, if you are the Alpha and stop any aggression food, loading, etc. You won't have a problem, it's when folks condone such behavior that it becomes a problem. Dave

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Originally posted by Mike Knuckols
Most of these deep and lonely dogs will fight that’s why they are man made lonely . Owners don’t have the stones to cull . Let a dog cover them and you will see . The handlers pride themselves on it . Cover late get ate . We have what we accept . I have a $10000 bone pile at the back of the place . I don’t have to cull much any more only 1 this year and it was just a pen barker . I’m pretty easy to get along with until I draw a fangster. Why would anyone want to be associated with one .

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Stuff

There's a lot of stuff posted on this board that need to be taken with a grain of salt.........

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Originally posted by johnny reb
People wonder why participation in hunts are down and were not drawing new participants. People get on these message boards and see statements like these. They read this and think every dog they draw that’s deep and alone is some mean son of a gun. The truth of the matter is yes that occasionly you will draw a rough dog but, that is the exception no the rule. The majority of the casts will not have to deal with that.

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Originally posted by Josh Michaelis
I have not had an actual knock down drag out dog fight in a cast in 6 years.

Most of the people commenting here have probably never seen one that is actually mean.

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all the mean dogs belong to someone else. except yours and mine,,,,,,and I ain`t sure about yours ?and mine is not mean,,,,he just won`t take no sh-t .

I'm lucky that the Male I own right now will just back up and sit on his butt and tree if the tree gets too crowded. He backed some dogs the other night and was sitting 10 or 15 yards away from tree treeing on his butt.

I've only seen one fight during a competition hunt and it was unavoidable. One dog was treed in a tree that leaned over a creek and was in the tree. Handler hollered and dog came running down the tree and plowed right into another Male dog and they went to rolling lol.

I don't care for a mean dog. I've handled some that were 'touchy' or 'light broke' and it's not my cup of tea. I already have enough to worry about without having to worry about getting scratched for fighting.

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Originally posted by mhardy
all the mean dogs belong to someone else. except yours and mine,,,,,,and I ain`t sure about yours ?and mine is not mean,,,,he just won`t take no sh-t .

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Originally posted by Reuben
I like 65 lb. males built like athletes...just big enough to defend themselves and finish it if needed...

Preferably...I want them to mind their own business...

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Tar...all except for rinohipmasorusrex and toy poodles...

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Originally posted by Josh Michaelis
I have not had an actual knock down drag out dog fight in a cast in 6 years.

Most of the people commenting here have probably never seen one that is actually mean.

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I have seen several knock down drag out fights in the past several years in the hunts. It's not even a surprise that they didn't want scratched. Some of them wasn't scratched. Now For it to be a fight that bad both dogs have to engage in the fight. There are plenty of ill temperament dog that doesn't get to that degree of fighting because the other dogs in the cast back down.

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Originally posted by Josh Michaelis
I have not had an actual knock down drag out dog fight in a cast in 6 years.

Most of the people commenting here have probably never seen one that is actually mean.

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Originally posted by pamjohnson
I have seen several knock down drag out fights in the past several years in the hunts.

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Originally posted by Josh Michaelis
Last time I seen that many fights it was because I was packing a dog that started fights all the time.

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What I've noticed is people saying a dog fight is shoving and jockeying for the tree. And a few face barks warning the other dog. Or a jacking dog. I can count very few actual mean dogs I've seen on a few fingers. House dogs on the other hand I've seen a bunch that were mean in every way.

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Is a "mean" dog just one that provokes a fight or also one that will fight when provoked?

Dog A gets treed by himself. Dog B comes in and a fight breaks out. Now did Dog B try to run Dog A off or did Dog A not want to let Dog B on his tree? Is only one of them "mean" or are both of them "mean"? How do you tell which one was the aggressor? Do both deserve to get scratched?

UKC rules now say that you have to see a fight in order to scratch dogs for fighting or aggressive behavior. How long will it be before you have to see how the fight started before you can scratch a dog? Will that be the next rule change?

Should only "mean" dogs get scratched or should all dogs that will fight get scratched for fighting?