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Posted by nextcoonhunters on 04-04-2020 01:32 PM:

Big country pups

I've never been to the woods with country. I have been in the woods with two of his littermates. Not trying to step on toes here but want the truth. So if you have no hands on experience with them or know nothing about him and his pups please feel free to read but I don't want to hear " back up your female to him because in the hunts his winning" stuff. Hands on experience with pups out of him is what I'm looking to hear from. Yes he must be a awesome hound but what is he putting in his pups? I have a few nice females, but without knowing more about his pups I'm not going there. His been bred to most breeds so plenty of people should by now have hands on experience. Looking for what mouth, track ability, and looks they've got. Let's see some pics, see some videos and dig in.

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Posted by davemc on 04-04-2020 01:56 PM:

pups

Check out the Country club hound out of Big Country. I raised this litter. All the pups in this litter that where placed in the right hands turned out to be nice hounds. Some better than others, But all have do problem parking themselves under real live coons, not empty trees! Country club made GR. Nite. Ch. winning or placing in several big Hunts. AS well as 3rd place in sophomore division of PKC SS. I have raised coonhounds for almost 50 years and I am not blind to any breed or and line of dogs out of any breed. There will be good pups, and there will be bad pups, Just like there are in any male hound. Its always a flip of a coin on how a cross turns out. If I still owed the female that I crossed on Big Country, I would make the cross again in a heart beat!!. NUFF SAID.


Posted by breezyoaks on 04-04-2020 02:17 PM:

Josh

U have ligitimate questions and comments given the posts and high priced pups being advertised. I will be interested in replies ....

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Posted by rrekab on 04-04-2020 02:38 PM:

Big County Pups

I have 2 at my place now--19 months & 12 months, previously had one here who is now 2 1/2 and have hunted with 3 other dogs out of Big Country. Three of these pups I started. All are independent, stay put tree dogs who are very independent. The female I have right now has a beautiful mouth and locate.
The 3 I have and/or started were all out of different females. One started early the other two I would say started at a normal age.... 10-12 months old. Counting den trees as having a coon, the one pup was 82% accurate at 13-14 months old, the female 75% accurate at 10-12 months old. The young male I have is not far enough along yet to begin making this determination. As long as I'm hunting Bluetick's, I won't own anything out of a different male dog. Been hunting since early 1970's, mostly bluetick. Good luck with your search for information. You will get biased information, I'm sure, but what I'm sharing is the TRUTH, but maybe I've just been lucky.


Posted by Mark V. on 04-04-2020 02:56 PM:

Joshua Dave is right some pups turn out some don't ( a fella would be a darn fool to expect anything less) but I will say that my Molly female was one of the most natural pups that i ever raised and her mom was the same. Molly will tree 3 or 4 coon most nights and go several nights without treeing a blank,yes there is things I would change but its hard not to like a year old pup that trees coon like that!!As a 13 month pup molly had treed over 60 coon by her self with no other dog in the woods at the time catch every opossum in three county I mean to say she stays busy( She didn't tree many just would catch them on the ground. What a lot of folks don't take into consideration is that B.C. is a product of a lot of good hound before him Davis's White River Salin Saddie was a tremendous hound that could of won big if someone else was handling her, I never hunted with Bosephus But co-owned his Sister Kaskaskia River blue Dizzie with a friend of mine Doug Leigh. Dizzie was HARD going big mouth super accurate and by her self. I hunted with B.C. mom OXY and she sure got it done the night I seen her go. I think B.C. was born to reproduce just like his parents J.M.O.


Posted by Bryan K Webb on 04-04-2020 04:11 PM:

You guys that are hunting pups out of Country, do they open good on track or are they tight on track... Also, are they big hunters?? Sorry, not trying to high jack your post...


Posted by nextcoonhunters on 04-04-2020 04:15 PM:

Not high jacking at all

quote:
Originally posted by Bryan K Webb
You guys that are hunting pups out of Country, do they open good on track or are they tight on track... Also, are they big hunters?? Sorry, not trying to high jack your post...

That's the kind of stuff I want to know. Everything from in the pen to pulling em off the tree and back to the truck. Everything...


Posted by Heikki on 04-04-2020 04:23 PM:

I have a 2 year old female, hard going, naturally very, very independent, (not man made) as accurate as I’ve hunted with, good locate & will hold a lot of pressure.She also has showed me in the last month how well she can tree layups. She has been naturally straight. Don’t have the loudest mouth I’ve ever heard, but it carries very good, don’t matter when she’s alone with a coon as much as she is. She is the most loving hound I’ve owned, good manners in the kennel not a barking, pen pacing, running through her crap idiot! Never had to put a bark collar on her or even walk out to the kennel to shut her up. You here the saying aim to please, well that’s my female! In my opinion he is reproducing some nice hounds, he will definitely contribute to the breed. Don’t forget a good quality female will only help.

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Posted by Heikki on 04-04-2020 05:48 PM:

Mine opens good on track, less on colder tracks more on hotter but not tight by no means. Your welcome to load up & come hunt with mine when all this stuff is over, bring a good one with you if you want.

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Posted by Rolin Blues on 04-04-2020 07:19 PM:

CH Rolin Blue Lil Bit Country

Sent you a pic of Madi/Lil at AO. Pic is of her winning Wisc. State Youth show last summer, 1st time she was ever put on bench. I have no idea how to post pic on here. Turned 2 this Feb. & will be hitting the hunts this summer. Opens good on ground, but not excessive, with good bawl/squall, good locate & nice chop on tree & will take pressure. Has all the hunt needed to go get treed in our area on most every turn loose.

I also hunted with 2 littermates in Mich. last May that Larry raised from his female that put on a 'split treeing' exhibition all night long at 1 1/2 yr old. Looked at 14 trees & saw coon in 11 of them & only had all 3 dogs on same tree once. Male was bawl track & tree. Female was chop on track/tree with an excellent locate & both were loud.

None of these 3 have any trouble getting a track moving & putting a tree on end of it, with or without company. Take care, Ron.


Posted by Josh Michaelis on 04-05-2020 01:28 AM:

A majority of them are not very old.

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Posted by terry tappy on 04-05-2020 04:02 PM:

Only as good as u make them, this goes to all breeds. A natural coon tree'er actually isn't that good if not given the opportunity, best of luck


Posted by nextcoonhunters on 04-06-2020 12:28 AM:

Around here

I tell everyone you can't make a coondog sitting in a pen. But that being said you don't see midgets playing in the NBA. Plan an simple.yes alot of great pups never make it because someone is to lazy or inadequate in training. But some pups are so stupid they can't find the feed bowl. That's why research prior to breeding is important.


Posted by wart on 04-06-2020 01:38 AM:

Dog

How much is his semen per breeding thanks


Posted by nextcoonhunters on 04-06-2020 02:03 AM:

Pups

quote:
Originally posted by wart
How much is his semen per breeding thanks

Good question, plus they live breeding him? How many pups he got in the ground and how many titled? What's been the best cross so for? But more importantly how are they from pen to hunt back to pen?


Posted by Josh Michaelis on 04-06-2020 02:45 PM:

Re: Dog

quote:
Originally posted by wart
How much is his semen per breeding thanks


$800 I believe

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Posted by 4play on 04-06-2020 05:29 PM:

Re: Pups

quote:
Originally posted by nextcoonhunters
Good question, plus they live breeding him? How many pups he got in the ground and how many titled? What's been the best cross so for? But more importantly how are they from pen to hunt back to pen?


Don't think many are over 2 yrs old yet?

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Posted by Mark V. on 04-07-2020 11:20 AM:

mine is 23 months she likes to be loved on, smart, you can drop the lead on the way back to the truck,pull her off the tree 10 yards and she is done with that tree . She does tree of the tree a bit and will jump some, will run a track with good mouth but can just fall treed and she does split tree a lot but only had her in a hand full of cast so she does need a bit of work there. A friend of mine just bread a gyp to him and they said was super nice and easy to work with and yes $800 for live breeding.


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